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Flyer00 05-05-2008 12:30 PM

CL604 Pilot pay
 
I know the new one is coming out, but I can't find last years issue of Pro Pilot for the salary survey.

Can someone tell me what the pay ranges were for a Challenger 604? Both Captain and First Officer. This would be for a Part 91 domestic/international company only.

Thank you!

geosynchronous 05-05-2008 01:35 PM

CA- Average 108,000
F/O Average 75,000

Professional Pilot, June 2007, pp. 102

par8head 05-07-2008 04:36 PM

hmmm i fly a CRJ-900 for about 37,000

I must be doing something terribly wrong!

FlyerJosh 05-07-2008 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by geosynchronous (Post 379706)
CA- Average 108,000
F/O Average 75,000

Professional Pilot, June 2007, pp. 102


Stanton Survey (2006):

Captain - Challenger 604
Base Salary:
Average - $98,900
Quartiles:
Q1 - $89,000
Q2 - $98,000
Q3 - $104,400
Average Bonus - $11,500 (100% received bonuses)

Total Cash:
Average - $107,500
Quartiles:
Q1 - $96,300
Q2 - $107,300
Q3 - $122,000

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Co-Pilot - Challenger 604
Base Salary:
Average - $74,200
Quartiles:
Q1 - $70,000
Q2 - $73,800
Q3 - $78,000
Average Bonus - $9,000 (100% received bonuses)

Total Cash:
Average - $81,900
Quartiles:
Q1 - $74,500
Q2 - $79,400
Q3 - $86,500


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FlyerJosh 05-07-2008 05:38 PM

2007 NBAA Numbers

Captain - Medium Jet (20k < 45k lbs)
Base Salary
Average: $91,648
Median: $90,000
25% Quartile: $80,000
75% Quartile: $100,100

Co-Pilot - Medium Jet (20k < 45k lbs)
Base Salary
Average: $65,652
Median: $65,000
25% Quartile: $52,500
75% Quartile: $76,000

cl601pilot 05-08-2008 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by par8head (Post 381078)
hmmm i fly a CRJ-900 for about 37,000

I must be doing something terribly wrong!

You are. You're comparing apples to oranges. Plus, a CRJ doesn't do any international flying.

ovrtake92 05-08-2008 06:58 AM

...and its really hard to get a challenger gig with 250 hours!

robthree 05-08-2008 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by cl601pilot (Post 381418)
You are. You're comparing apples to oranges. Plus, a CRJ doesn't do any international flying.

Actually he's comparing a bushel of soybeans to a tin of caviar.

And perhaps you mean CRJs don't do any transoceanic flying?

Bill Lumberg 05-09-2008 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by cl601pilot (Post 381418)
You are. You're comparing apples to oranges. Plus, a CRJ doesn't do any international flying.

The Mesa CR9 drivers do a lot of Mexico flying. I know a 604 FO who primarily flies domestic (including Hawaii). I wouldn't generalize too much.

Globaldriver53 05-10-2008 04:54 AM

You are not doing anything wrong. My recommendation is build up time where you are now, then start looking into Corporate flying, it's where the money is these days. My 2 cents (former US Airways 737 driver, never looked back). Good luck to you.

pilotr 05-11-2008 11:27 AM

Question for GlobalDriver 53
 
I see that you were a USAir pilot who went to Corporate. I have returned to USAir from furlough and am not very impressed with the state of the US airline industry. I have recently been offered a position as a Global Express Captain and am seriously considering it.

As an USAir turned Global pilot what advice can you share. What surprised you about the corporate world. What do you think of the plane and of the training. Any advice?

Thanks!

rjpurgatory 06-02-2008 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by cl601pilot (Post 381418)
You are. You're comparing apples to oranges. Plus, a CRJ doesn't do any international flying.

aside from mexico, the mesa cr9 also goes to YEG, YVR and YYC and there are plenty of of flights out of IAD to eastern Canada. North America is a REGION after all.

edznaz 06-02-2008 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by pilotr (Post 383722)
I see that you were a USAir pilot who went to Corporate. I have returned to USAir from furlough and am not very impressed with the state of the US airline industry. I have recently been offered a position as a Global Express Captain and am seriously considering it.

As an USAir turned Global pilot what advice can you share. What surprised you about the corporate world. What do you think of the plane and of the training. Any advice?

Thanks!

Ok, not that guy, but I am in a similar situation. Straight corp is very different from Fracs. Fractionals have many "airline like" aspects, including skeds, vacations, and overall responsibilities. I work for a very small department, and its pretty much just me and my boss. We are on 24/7/365. Sure, they have a "plan" and almost always stick to it, but I am always on call. Flying is very interesting, and I really like the variety. Mostly dom stuff for us, but we just got back from Eastern Europe, which was very cool. There is lots of "other stuff" to do, and it all must be done exactly right. Folks get fired over stuff like having Pepsi instead of Coke. You will probably have some kind of cabin attendant, which will help relive you of some of this stuff, but it will still all be on your head. Did you check to make sure the FBO has hanger space? Is fuel cheaper across the field? Are you sure they have 24hr staffing? Ready to watch the ramp guys take 45min trying to squeeze your airplane into the hanger? These are the kind of issues you must track in a 91 op. I'd have a good long talk with some folks in the department and try to get a full picture of what your real "day to day" will be like. Probably better money and stability (whatever that is), just be sure you are prepared for the reality of the job.

Good luck

Z

pilotr 06-02-2008 01:17 PM

Thanks Edznaz.....anyone else?

mooney 06-03-2008 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by par8head (Post 381078)
hmmm i fly a CRJ-900 for about 37,000

I must be doing something terribly wrong!


OK everybody who responded seriously to this remark needs to sit back, relax, turn on your sarcasm detector and your sense of humor....:)

mooney 06-03-2008 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by cl601pilot (Post 381418)
You are. You're comparing apples to oranges. Plus, a CRJ doesn't do any international flying.

I didnt realize Canada, Mexico, Bahamas, and about 7 or 8 Carribean countries weren't part of the U.S....

FlyerJosh 06-03-2008 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 395866)
I didnt realize Canada, Mexico, Bahamas, and about 7 or 8 Carribean countries weren't part of the U.S....


Yes, it's international flying. However flying to places like you mentioned (short hops, while speaking to mostly US controllers) really doesn't compare with an 6-8 hour flight where multiple overflight permits or oceanic airspace/HF radio is required.

gtippin 06-03-2008 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by edznaz (Post 395333)
Ok, not that guy, but I am in a similar situation. Straight corp is very different from Fracs. Fractionals have many "airline like" aspects, including skeds, vacations, and overall responsibilities. I work for a very small department, and its pretty much just me and my boss. We are on 24/7/365. Sure, they have a "plan" and almost always stick to it, but I am always on call. Flying is very interesting, and I really like the variety. Mostly dom stuff for us, but we just got back from Eastern Europe, which was very cool. There is lots of "other stuff" to do, and it all must be done exactly right. Folks get fired over stuff like having Pepsi instead of Coke. You will probably have some kind of cabin attendant, which will help relive you of some of this stuff, but it will still all be on your head. Did you check to make sure the FBO has hanger space? Is fuel cheaper across the field? Are you sure they have 24hr staffing? Ready to watch the ramp guys take 45min trying to squeeze your airplane into the hanger? These are the kind of issues you must track in a 91 op. I'd have a good long talk with some folks in the department and try to get a full picture of what your real "day to day" will be like. Probably better money and stability (whatever that is), just be sure you are prepared for the reality of the job.

Good luck

Z

Hey I had that same job in two different places. ( hehe ) I think that is the kind of thing that makes Corporate flying interesting.


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