Competitive Times for a Corporate Gig
Just curious how compeitive the following times would be in the corporate world.
Myself: 2000TT/1000 Turbine/250TPIC Buddy of mine, at the same airline (F/O): 1600TT/750 Turbine SIC. We both hold ATP's. We're both playing "what if" and thinking about jobs we could possibly get when/if our airline goes belly up. Be honest, no matter how painful. Try to provide some examples of jobs (if any) since niether of us has any experience in the corp. world. |
Hello,
Many 135 charter operators require 2500+ hours in the total time column, largely due to insurance requirements, customers, and auditing firms such as Wyvern Ltd and ARG/US.
Originally Posted by ARG/US
ARG/US standard minimums require the Captain to have at least an ATP license, 3000 hours total time, and 1500 hours total PIC time. Specific subscriber minimums may be higher.
ARG/US standard minimums require the First Officer to have a Commercial license, 1000 hours total time, and 500 hours total PIC time. Specific subscriber minimums may be higher. ARG/US standard minimums require that the crew have a combined total of 250 hours PIC time in type. This may be met by the PIC having at least 100 hours PIC time in type of the combined total of 250 PIC time in type. The SIC must be an ATP for his/her PIC time in type to qualify. Some ARG/US subscribers have custom requirements beyond the ARG/US standard minimums. Be sure to ask them what their requirements are so you may provide them with an appropriately experienced crew. Code:
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In the corporate world, times vary across a HUGE expanse of requirements. Some departments are going to want you to have 18 type ratings, 20,000 hours, and a space shuttle type rating. Others are going to want simply an ATP rating.
A lot of the minimums for part 91 corporate jobs are set by insurance requirements. At my employer, we have no minimum hour requirement, however I would consider 3000TT, 2500ME with ATP and turbine time competitive, maybe even more with the slowing of the industry and the number of airline pilots who are looking to leave the 121 world. What it really comes down to (and I'm sure you've heard it), is networking- the 95% of the jobs in the corporate world is all about who you know. The other 5% are "right place, right time" deals. I know guys that landed turbine part 91 jobs with as little as 700TT and others that have been passed over (or not considered) for King Air jobs with more than 10,000TT and time in type. Here are some things that will help you land a corporate gig:
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Josh hit the nail on the head.
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the easiest way in to to start dating the chief pilot's daughter....it can backfire in the long run tho :)
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Originally Posted by IBPilot
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the easiest way in to to start dating the chief pilot's daughter....it can backfire in the long run tho :)
Forget dating the Chief Pilot's daughter. Date the guys daughter that owns the plane! :) |
NIce new title, Josh. What does it mean, full time?
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver
(Post 398740)
NIce new title, Josh. What does it mean, full time?
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Avcrew, Planejobs, Climb to 350, JS Firm are filled with ENTRY level corp jobs which you barely qualify for. There is NO correlation between Corp and regional. If you are looking for Honeywell, Pepsi, Coke, Wachovia, Koch, Cargill, 3M, Penske ect. ect. ect.. than start with Voyage Air, LJ, Des Moine Aero ect. ect. ect... Get some more types and about 3000 more hours. I have cut my heating bills in half this year with resumes that say CL65 and EMB 135/145. There are tons of descent entry level jobs out there but you better be quick because the furlough train is almost up to full speed and if your not ahead of it than your under it! I have 8000+ hours with 5 type ratings, all Corp, most large international and I am 2 years into my Dream Corp job and it only took 8 progressively better jobs and 16 years. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by 7700
(Post 400084)
Avcrew, Planejobs, Climb to 350, JS Firm are filled with ENTRY level corp jobs which you barely qualify for. There is NO correlation between Corp and regional. If you are looking for Honeywell, Pepsi, Coke, Wachovia, Koch, Cargill, 3M, Penske ect. ect. ect.. than start with Voyage Air, LJ, Des Moine Aero ect. ect. ect... Get some more types and about 3000 more hours. I have cut my heating bills in half this year with resumes that say CL65 and EMB 135/145. There are tons of descent entry level jobs out there but you better be quick because the furlough train is almost up to full speed and if your not ahead of it than your under it! I have 8000+ hours with 5 type ratings, all Corp, most large international and I am 2 years into my Dream Corp job and it only took 8 progressively better jobs and 16 years. Good luck!
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