King Air 200 Job Opening
#11
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: Captain part 135
Posts: 88
Branded...lets do some math.....simple grade school math....assume you are a new captain at a regional airline.. 60K annual is a good rough estimate of what you would make in that situation...now lets take your annual salay of 60k and divide it by the total hours your going to make in that year......lets say your going to work 800 hours a year at that airline..so essentially $75.per hour for that amount of work.now lets take the common fact that the corprate pilot will work 350 hours a year (which is what we are prospected to fly this year) and make 40k during that year....that comes to $114.00 per hour...if you can do basic math you will easily see that i am offering far better than the airline hourly pay...now lets add in expenses on the road...which are ALL paid for, healthcare benifits (which might i add are far better than ANY airline), yearly bounus, and paid vacation...in addition the option to have profit sharing options at years end....i would appriciate it if you knew the FACTS before you made negitive comments..lets keep this professional and not regress to the childhood pre k state that you made your comments in...thanks in advance
#12
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 16
Actually for all you RJ drivers, SBaker is pretty much on track. A low time King Air 200 pilot (and 2000TT IS low time in the 91/135 world at the same time 6000 is high time...most people dont get hired with wet commercial ratings in that industry). What does a 2000 hr Ameriflight pilot make? I know a few king air carriers here in So Cal that start around 40K. 40K in TX goes a lot farther and not to mention all the other stuff, and sometimes lucky to get medical. King Airs are a blast to fly and are bullet proof. Its a 12,500 plane so no type required for PIC turbine in a high alt plane. Short hops, but capable of longer ones if Mr. Baker likes hearing his engines. A year or 2 on one and you'll have no prob getting a bigger plane if you want. I met a C550 capt today that gave up flying a G450 for a part 91 citation because he wanted a plane he could fly, not watch the autopilot for 8 hrs. Sure the big boys are fun to fly at first but we got into this to fly planes.
Besides Im sure he (and the insurance co) would rather put in a T-prop guy like Ameriflight than an RJ driver.
PS thanks for not posting this for the public and not just on other pay to play site.
Besides Im sure he (and the insurance co) would rather put in a T-prop guy like Ameriflight than an RJ driver.
PS thanks for not posting this for the public and not just on other pay to play site.
#15
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 16
yes 40K isnt THAT great esp in LA where you need 2 6 figure incomes to have any real 'QOL', but for a first real job beyond time building...ie boxes, cfi, banner towing, traffic watch etc etc.... even RJ driving is time building now @ 16-20K/yr how can someone afford anything, living on reserve in crash pads, if you are lucky enough to hold a line you are a god! Around 40K is the start in corporate SIC or PIC T-prop non-typed unless you want to go buy a gulfstream type for 30K, then again ATPs is 2x that now for seminole time. Most places want ATP mins to even be considered for SIC. PIC king air 200 will take who ever is lucky enough to get this job very far..
Btw even though it is a 200, the insurance company will probably want the pilot to go to school on the plane or have time in type so there's are extra expense for the boss 1st year, pay out of ass for insurance, school and/or get time in type... maybe if Baker likes you, you get a raise the second year since it wouldnt be as expensive for the owner.
Btw even though it is a 200, the insurance company will probably want the pilot to go to school on the plane or have time in type so there's are extra expense for the boss 1st year, pay out of ass for insurance, school and/or get time in type... maybe if Baker likes you, you get a raise the second year since it wouldnt be as expensive for the owner.
#16
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 65
If you pay minimum than you get minimum. That being said $40k for a 2000 hr Captain in a King Air PIC is pretty normal. You may not make it to an airport everytime you leave but your goal was minimum experience for min pay. If your experience bag fills before your luck bag empties some time down the road you will have an experienced pilot and will probably pay him/her more or he/she will leave and you can try you luck again with the next low time pilot you can find.
$40k = 2000 hr PIC = You might not bend metal?
$70k = 5000+ hr PIC = You probably won't bend metal.
That being said I started as Captain in a B200 with 2300hrs(800 SIC B200) and despite all my best attempts, did not kill myself or anyone seated near me! 16 years ago that paid $30k and Jet A cost $1.60/gal!
Good Luck!
$40k = 2000 hr PIC = You might not bend metal?
$70k = 5000+ hr PIC = You probably won't bend metal.
That being said I started as Captain in a B200 with 2300hrs(800 SIC B200) and despite all my best attempts, did not kill myself or anyone seated near me! 16 years ago that paid $30k and Jet A cost $1.60/gal!
Good Luck!
#17
King Air 200 PIC position..
2200 tt min ATP or commercial Multi instrument
ATP written Prefered
Some turbine time preferred
Must have 1st class medical
Part 91 and some 135
training and ATP rating will be paid for
40k first year with full benifits
Dallas/Fort Worth TX
Call
Stan Baker
Baker Aviation
817-781-7692
2200 tt min ATP or commercial Multi instrument
ATP written Prefered
Some turbine time preferred
Must have 1st class medical
Part 91 and some 135
training and ATP rating will be paid for
40k first year with full benifits
Dallas/Fort Worth TX
Call
Stan Baker
Baker Aviation
817-781-7692
a 70K to 85K / year job. You may be able to get a lower time pilot with ME and Inst. rating gaining experience and building flight time for 40K. You get what you pay for but everyone has to start somewhere. I worked for 12K first year. Many years ago. Good luck in your search.
#19
Flight time is such a relative thing. What matters the most is the background in which the pilot came from. Why would you hire a pilot who was not competent. In the end you should pay based on what your expectations are. Hopefully your expections would be the same for any pilot. If not, you're only setting yourself up for failure.
#20
so its ok to make 20k flying a 70 seat RJ you wont even see 40k till probably 3rd year pay. Im sure that Baker is not looking for Chuck Yeager maybe a young guy looking to build QUALITY PIC TIME that will use this offer as a stepping stone not a career. Myself being from Texas I can tell you this is pretty typical low end pay around here for this type of job, then again they are not asking for 5000 hours. You can live fairly comfortably on that kind of salary. Then again depends on what you consider comfortable. where else can you make more than 40k with 2000 hours TT and no type? I do agree you get what you pay for, maybe as i stated above that is all they are looking for.
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