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Old 08-16-2008, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NowCorporate View Post
This coming from an Embraer pilot on reserve?

Gotta love the internet!- nobody works for less that 250K, even in a POS EMB145.

Owned.....

btw FYI for all of you giving me a hard time for the pay rate and whatnot. i didnt determine the rate...thats just what the boss man told me to offer.....i am the right seater in this plane, the insurance is set up for two pilots at all time, i wish i had the flight time to accept the position but im a low timer and theres no way in hell you could get a 600 hr pilot insured in the thing single pilot.

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Old 08-21-2008, 09:35 PM
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Sbaker1595,

what kind of trips : overnights or day trips ?
what kind of training : in house or simuflight / FSI ?
how much notice before trips ? (is it on pager 24/7?)
where in DFW ? is it FTW (817 area code?)
what other duties besides flying (+all pre/post flights duties)
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Old 08-22-2008, 06:25 AM
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some overnights, mostly day trips..... Sentient Flight Group indoc and Simuflite for training, whats a pager??? if i had one of those then i couldnt ever have a beeR!! fort worth meacham based at Texas jet...other duties??you mean like sleeping?? were pilots not accounts or desk jockeys shoot me a resume if your interested.. [email protected] get it to me quick because im not accepting any more after today
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:16 AM
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Tell Stan to pony up about $12K more per year and he will get some quality candidates that he might be able to retain for awhile. Just out of curiosity, what does he pay his BE20 FOs? What year is this King Air?
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:39 AM
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the position has been filled...thank you all for your intrest and help
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Old 08-22-2008, 11:23 AM
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Old 08-22-2008, 12:03 PM
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"Owned" huh?

I am RJ pilot, and not even close to being on reserve, nor did I furlough or downgrade. My flying began in the Navy through the Tactical Jet/Strike training program in Beeville, Texas. I choose this company for it's reasonable pay rates, (which are well above yours and still hard to live with) and location in proximity to my home in Corpus Christi.

My message: I hate to see guys take low paying jobs, not being totally educated on the situation. A college educated PILOT deserves far better, yet the airlines have slashed pay below that of a CFI... and now we see the corporate side do it also. Had you paid better, your pool of qualified applicants would be deeper and of higher quality, and likely would see lower turnover with higher morale.

I got $40.00 a hour at a part 141 school as a CFI/MEI (on active duty), and our full time CFI's made more than the King Air offer. In my location tips that matched the hourly rate were common, especially when our customer combined a vacation with new certificates (under time constraints).


I just love the attitude of the poster as well... your maturity and respect "shine" with comments such as "OWNED" when you do not hold the background knowledge of the person you are talking trash to.
Just saying....

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Old 08-22-2008, 02:44 PM
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My message: I hate to see guys take low paying jobs, not being totally educated on the situation.
OK.

How much did you make upon starting at your regional? Please dont tell us its not a regional, but SWIFT?

qualify for food stamps? less than a Mcdonalds drive-thru technician? but this was different how?

Why do people care if the job is low paying or entry level? Its a king air job that might be a stepping stone to something else.....as Im sure thats your arguement for flying for an RJ for downright comical wages.

If you don't like the job, dont apply!

Believe me - I (or many others here) would never apply for your job if its under 150K, but I really dont think your are lowering the bar for me at all...you are just working on a career. Best of Luck.

An RJ pilot lecturing us about working for low wages...only on the internet folks.


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Old 08-24-2008, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sbaker1595 View Post
Owned.....

btw FYI for all of you giving me a hard time for the pay rate and whatnot. i didnt determine the rate...thats just what the boss man told me to offer.....i am the right seater in this plane, the insurance is set up for two pilots at all time, i wish i had the flight time to accept the position but im a low timer and theres no way in hell you could get a 600 hr pilot insured in the thing single pilot.

The boss man is your dad, Stan.

So tell us what you plan on doing to the PIC once you reach 2000 TT? You going to fire him?
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Old 08-24-2008, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BrandedPilot View Post
"Owned" huh?

I am RJ pilot, and not even close to being on reserve, nor did I furlough or downgrade. My flying began in the Navy through the Tactical Jet/Strike training program in Beeville, Texas. I choose this company for it's reasonable pay rates, (which are well above yours and still hard to live with) and location in proximity to my home in Corpus Christi.

My message: I hate to see guys take low paying jobs, not being totally educated on the situation. A college educated PILOT deserves far better, yet the airlines have slashed pay below that of a CFI... and now we see the corporate side do it also. Had you paid better, your pool of qualified applicants would be deeper and of higher quality, and likely would see lower turnover with higher morale.

I got $40.00 a hour at a part 141 school as a CFI/MEI (on active duty), and our full time CFI's made more than the King Air offer. In my location tips that matched the hourly rate were common, especially when our customer combined a vacation with new certificates (under time constraints).


I just love the attitude of the poster as well... your maturity and respect "shine" with comments such as "OWNED" when you do not hold the background knowledge of the person you are talking trash to.
Just saying....
Your flying began in the Navy, was it ever complete? Your leadership and professionalism do not exactly strike me as that of a naval aviator. Perhaps I am misreading your tone.

With thousands of professional aviators on the street, $40K living in TX may be exactly what a furloughed or fired pilot needs. Everyone has different needs. If the shoe fits they should wear it. Is this job right for me.....no. If someone can turn $40K into keeping the lights turned on and feeding the kids, then it is a fair wage (it can be done).

Enjoy your EMB while you still have it and hopefully you won't have to decide on whether you will wait for the unemployment check vs. taking that King Air job to pay the bills.

Welcome to aviation.
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