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King Air Daily rate?
whats the going daily rate on a king air 200 fo? 135 department that needs one per their ops specs?
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Where are you located? Thats a big factor but ball park $200/day plus expenses.
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Man, in '98 I was getting $300/day in DFW
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Originally Posted by Thedude
(Post 568890)
Man, in '98 I was getting $300/day in DFW
For a king air Fo? Wow that would be great but I think that would be alittle on the high side unless you lived in NY. I think the captain pay is $500/day now depending on location. |
Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
(Post 568938)
For a king air Fo? Wow that would be great but I think that would be alittle on the high side unless you lived in NY. I think the captain pay is $500/day now depending on location.
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I currently do King Air contract work on a 200 out of Newburgh, NY (KSWF). Day rate for me is $500.00 as the PIC, even if I am flying in the right seat for the owner/pilot. When the owner wants to sit in the back with his family, we bring an SIC, and the rate is $300.00 for the co-pilot. I do the same on an E90 out of Trenton, NJ (KTTN), and I still get $500.00. Typed in a 350, and those rates are $600.00/$400.00. Hope that helps.
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thanks guys it does. Im in the SE. I was kinda thinking around 300 to sit right seat.
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For what its worth, at our company the day rate is $125 expenses paid for. 135 Mid-West company with 90's and 200's.
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Question for you guys: I'm thinking of pursuing a BE350 type. Would an insurance company take that as formal training for a -200 or a -90? Or would they look for specific make/model?
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Originally Posted by X Rated
(Post 569188)
Question for you guys: I'm thinking of pursuing a BE350 type. Would an insurance company take that as formal training for a -200 or a -90? Or would they look for specific make/model?
Thanks, X |
Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
(Post 569594)
Do you plan on doing just 91 or 135 stuff as well. The reason why I ask is because if you plan on 135 you'll need a check ride and I believe the FAA wants it in the specific model but I could be wrong about the king airs. They used to allow the 1900 and 350 to be the same type, but call the local FSDO and see what they say.
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omfg low pay
So if you work 300 days a year (6 days a week, no vacation), you'll earn the grand sum of $37,000. That's a pretty paltry paycheck for a professional.
Originally Posted by rynrock9
(Post 569115)
For what its worth, at our company the day rate is $125 expenses paid for. 135 Mid-West company with 90's and 200's.
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I saw a Legacy 600 where the going rate on average was around $1000/day + expenses... but the owner refused to pay greater than $300. And he found typed pilots to do it.
It can be mean out there. |
Originally Posted by rynrock9
(Post 569115)
For what its worth, at our company the day rate is $125 expenses paid for. 135 Mid-West company with 90's and 200's.
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I was flying a 421 for $300/day. And you're flying a KingAir for $125/day? The company you work for needs a serious attitude adjustment for their pilot's pay. Just my 2c.
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Guys read the entire thread, he is being paid to sit right seat. This isn't rocket science, hes not going to get $500/day for it. It would be nice to see that but I don't think that will ever happen. Lets say the average king air fo makes $40,000/yr. divide that by 200 days and thats $200 per day. Thats the point of contract people, its supposed to be more cost efficient than salary. If you work someone 200 days a year it would be better to just put them on salary. Now $125/day is low but I highly doubt these guys are qualified to fly left seat, like a 135 check ride or training at flight safety. The good news is he's being paid, hopefully what he's worth. There are plenty of kids with SJS who would do it for free or even worse pay to sit there.
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Your right $125 for the right seat is low, but Im also flying a baron left seat for more $. I've got caught in the "Contract pilot" deal with my company. Now however when companies are starting to evaluate their balance sheets, I hope I will be able to weather the storm with my food stamps and mac and cheese.
With alot of fellow pilots losing their jobs and waiting in hiring pools, the only swimming I want to be doing is out back in the lake with my buddies and a cold beer. |
$125 is a disgrace! If the company thinks enough of his ability to put him in the aircraft he should get around $300/day, maybe $350. I get $500 for occasional right seat in the Beechjet under Part91, New York area.
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Is this position for Ops specs, or insurance? I was paid $75/day for this position, but it was only insurance requirements. We are talking a Be20 here folks, not something that requires 2 people. Depending on where you're located, it probably could/should be more, but honestly and obviously it's not a long-term position.
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Originally Posted by X Rated
(Post 569188)
Question for you guys: I'm thinking of pursuing a BE350 type. Would an insurance company take that as formal training for a -200 or a -90? Or would they look for specific make/model?
Thanks, X |
Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
(Post 569981)
Guys read the entire thread, he is being paid to sit right seat. This isn't rocket science, hes not going to get $500/day for it. It would be nice to see that but I don't think that will ever happen. Lets say the average king air fo makes $40,000/yr. divide that by 200 days and thats $200 per day. Thats the point of contract people, its supposed to be more cost efficient than salary. If you work someone 200 days a year it would be better to just put them on salary. Now $125/day is low but I highly doubt these guys are qualified to fly left seat, like a 135 check ride or training at flight safety. The good news is he's being paid, hopefully what he's worth. There are plenty of kids with SJS who would do it for free or even worse pay to sit there.
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
(Post 568836)
whats the going daily rate on a king air 200 fo? 135 department that needs one per their ops specs?
Is that specific? |
Originally Posted by Ewfflyer
(Post 571137)
Is this position for Ops specs, or insurance? I was paid $75/day for this position, but it was only insurance requirements. We are talking a Be20 here folks, not something that requires 2 people. Depending on where you're located, it probably could/should be more, but honestly and obviously it's not a long-term position.
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Hey guys left me clarify a few things.
First off thanks for all of the replies. I was questioning about sitting in the right seat on a king air 200. This would be for a part 135 operation that needs an SIC per their ops specs as well as insurance requirements. Location is central Florida area. Heres another question for you guys. This would be a part time position. I am looking to get out of the 121 world and into the 91/135 world. I am considering this but would need to make money on the side until I could find a full time position. What have some of your part time guys done on the side? Since it is part time, daily rate, I would assume that all the trips would be preplanned trips and they would use a full time FO for pop ups. How else could a "part time" guy feed his family if he was on call and unable to work another part time job? |
If you want to stay within the industry, I'd look into aircraft brokering, aviation insurance and maybe even instructing if you like it. The down side is the aviation industry sucks right now so no matter what you try it will be slow.
You said you're in central FL, have you look into flight safety or simcom? They like part time guys who can come and go when needed and I hear they pay pretty well. |
Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
(Post 571780)
If you want to stay within the industry, I'd look into aircraft brokering, aviation insurance and maybe even instructing if you like it. The down side is the aviation industry sucks right now so no matter what you try it will be slow.
You said you're in central FL, have you look into flight safety or simcom? They like part time guys who can come and go when needed and I hear they pay pretty well. thanks ill take a look. |
Originally Posted by rynrock9
(Post 569115)
For what its worth, at our company the day rate is $125 expenses paid for. 135 Mid-West company with 90's and 200's.
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Day rate
Our company (Part 135) pays $250/day for King Air 200 right seat, 500/day King Air 200 PIC. Not required per Op's specs, usually just client requested.
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I was making around $50/flight hr with a $400/day cap flying a Navajo around part 91. Others I have talked to were making 4-500/day for KA C90 or 200 PIC.
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$500 left seat, $300 right seat and I wouldn't accept a dime less. You may not be a required crew member in the eyes of the FAA, but if that airplane doesn't roll without two pilots upfront, you damn well better be compensated accordingly.
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Nyspk9
Hey NYSPK9 - Fly out of Stewart? Would like to talk to you. I have a uncle who worked out of Monroe (SP) for 25+ years, you might know him.
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