Senators Corporate Jet Use
 

And these are the guys destroying our industry and livelihood!!!! Unbelievable!!!

The Senate's Big Spenders - ABC News

These guys are not destroying our industry and livehood. The Media is, in this case ABC News....At this point I fear the media A LOT more than I fear this reccession..

CEOs flying around in private jets is creating a lot of controversy, as far as the media is concern, this is the gift that keeps on giving...they're going to ride this pony until it drops.

Don't forget Pres. Obama's speech to the Nation. When he made the comment about CEOs hiding behind their corperate jets. Yes the media is to blame but they are just reporting what our "leaders" are saying. As far as hiding behind corp. jets how much did it cost the taxpayers for Pres. Obama to "fly" to NYC on a corp type jet for a date with his wife? And they want to limit pay and bonus on Corp CEO's.... Ok I feel better that I got to vent a little.

It didn't cost as much as flying to CA to appear on the Jay Leno show to make fun of people with disabilities.

I am delighted to see members of the U.S. Senate flying on charter or private aircraft. That should improve their attitude toward the use of aircraft for their efficiency, convenience, privacy and security. If they use aircraft, then demagogue on the issue, then they should be immediately exposed as hypocrites, but as long as they appreciate and use aircraft, they should be solidly commended for that.

Where is Mr. Boccieri??? you remember, the one who wrote the letter to Colgan airlines? Maybe Boccieri can go after his fellow leaches.

Into DCA regularly, and the only other traffic at Signature are the Senators and Congressman. Very Ironic............

MTOP - are you kidding me, you think that riding in these aircraft are going to improve their attitude? They are all about maintaining power, privilege, and perks for themselves. The only way for them to appreciate the time savings and improved security of corporate aircraft is for them to fly coach.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, what about that 'little' plane Obama flys? I believe it is a 747? Pot, meet kettle, big time.

Democrat or Republican
 

We need to vote them all out, the process is just not working.

Actually, he has a selection of jets to use, depending on the length of flight and the airport he's going to. I believe the SAM squadron operates 757s and G-Vs in addition to the 747.

This is a great discussion about corporate jet use and the current black eye given to corporate aviation in light of the congressional hearings. Feel free to discuss congress' use of business jets and the current media/public views - but let's keep the particular names out of the discussions as this often leads to a political debate (is the current president's name really required above?) which is not allowed per APC TOS.

USMCFLYR

Agreed, we should start:

P.A.I.D.

Pilots Against Incumbent Dopes

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I would normally agree, but when this guy is publicly bashing corporate aviation AND forcing companies to sell their business tools, then I believe the name usage is appropriate in the discussion. I would think nancy p is fair game too with her abuse of the GV and 757 going to CA almost every week. :mad:

There is enough abuse of all kinds of power to go around. Focus on the ISSUE and not the individuals involved. Naming names will only lead this useful thread down the path of my politicans are better than your politicans and will end up with the thread being closed. We have proven time and time again that we are incapable of discussing certain subjects like adults. :(

USMCFLYR

Sadly, we have lost the ability to have a rational discussions with opposing points of view. People need to learn went it's time to "agree to disagree" and still have respect for the other party.

NYSPK9 - Still flying out of Stewart? Like to ask you some questions if you still are?

Unfortunately, jumping on the Senate band wagon on the use of corporate jets led to the demise (or didnt help the cause) of many corporate flight departments--including mine. Although we had not been making the projected revenue to that made in 2006 and 2007, the image alone of corporate air travel was at least a final nail in many coffins.
After being laid off, I found it a bitter pill to swallow watching the many senators, and even the top man himself (who by the way we used to fly and his family and staff) completey disregard the benefits to corporate aviation. Speed, flexibility, and time savings. All tools for the corporate tool box, the same as any mechanic using top of the line tools to complete his or her project. The better the tools, the more efficient a job gets done, and efficiency=time=dollars.
Most of know that if you were to break down some of the CEO's salary to an hourly wage, it is alot. And we dont need these guys sitting in an airport 2 hours ahead of schedule, to get on an already delayed flight, to fly to an airport that may or may not be near their place of business. As a former airline pilot, and most recent corporate pilot, I can see the benefits to corporate aviation. Im surprised not many of our esteemed government officials that have flown on these aircraft, and know the value did not step up to the plate in our defense. I guess what is right is sometimes not popular, and what is popular gets the votes.
I do hope they realize that it wasnt just the planes and it's pilots, but an armada of a workforce that goes into corporate aviation (aircraft manufacturers, avionics, sales, FBO's, etc). There are alot of faces involved, and in one fellow swoop, were "thrown under the bus".
What I would have liked to have seen is a congressional committee member asking where "Mr CEO" is, with a response "He's flying standby on brand X airlines because the previous flight was cancelled".

Sorry, I should have said every president since the 1950's. It just hasn't been a problem until recently.

It is total BS that some people (we know who) can use private aircraft, while others get looked down upon for it. I don't know why some of these companies that were made to feel guilty about using private aircraft haven't pointed their fingers back. Our country's finances aren't any better than the bailed out companies.

Also, forgive me for not memorizing the rules to a free and public message board. I have better things to remember. Using common sense I have only committed minor violations.

I saw a new ad on a business flying mag about the new King Air. It said that if the CEOs had taken a King Air instead of a Gulfstream to the hill to ask for more money, they would have gotten it. Pretty funny.

For the folks who aren't in the USAF, or not in the Air Mobility Command, you would not believe the flights / missions the USAF flies to support our leaders in Washington. If you only knew, you would be outraged. This little article is only the tip of the iceberg.

I could tell you my stories, but it would only get my bloodpressure way up.

They should really recruit certain congressional members into the CIA. Deny everything, admit nothing.

too bad the media can't camp out around the base there in DC (like they have been at GA airports else where) to catch these people, no wait I mean politicians (they're not people), in action. I wonder if that would ever make it into press with the liberal media? maybe you can leak some stories! :D:D

Too late FLYR, too late. What a shame!.

I'm out of this one.