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tennesseeflyboy 04-17-2010 06:22 PM

Flights blocked from tracking sites ?
 
Just read about this special deal that Business aircraft and others, that are members of NBAA and other entities have been receiving the special flight information blocking protections. USATODAY reported it recently.

The big claim has been SECURITY. So what about everyone else that does not know about this program or cannot afford or want to pay the bucks to NBAA to get this special deal ?

I was needless to say incensed at the thought that FAA has allowed for such blatant and arrogant misuse of PUBLIC information, to be witheld by a select group of corporations and individuals.
My gut tells me that once again, in this great land of ours, there is always going to be some entity or agenda to promote so called protections, as long as it is paid for.
Either everyone gets the same treatment or no one should be getting it.

HSLD 04-17-2010 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by tennesseeflyboy (Post 797748)
I was needless to say incensed at the thought that FAA has allowed for such blatant and arrogant misuse of PUBLIC information

Are you mad because the FAA is providing a live data feed of targets from the TRACON to the internet, or are you mad because some people with more money that you are blocking their movements?

BoilerUP 04-17-2010 07:12 PM

Google the BARR program; you'll find all you want to know (including that its FREE).

As far as "public information" goes...its no more your business to know where our airplane flies to than it is my business to know where your car drives to.

Fred Smith evidently feels the same way, because all eleven of FedEx's business jets are blocked.

UCLAbruins 04-18-2010 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 797760)
As far as "public information" goes...its no more your business to know where our airplane flies to than it is my business to know where your car drives to.

right on Boiler

Is not about safety or security, its about privacy...cannot even begin to imagine what would happen if the papparazzi and/or media could track any tail number they wanted.... you'd see some of them hanging from the ILS antenna, or maybe hidding behind the airfield's VOR, etc...

DYNASTY HVY 04-18-2010 04:42 AM

You schould apply for an ATC position where you can track flights to your hearts content.




Crabby ole Cpt.

the King 04-18-2010 11:59 AM

TNflyboy, these guys are right on the money. It isn't a massive cover-up, these are private citizens who don't feel the need to disclose their every travel move to the public. The BARR program is absolutely free (although, like many services there are those willing to set it up for money and those willing to pay said money).

As a sidenote, I'm concerned that your best news source for aviation was USAToday. Most guys in this industry aren't getting their news from sources like that. While we often read or watch the reports, it usually involves laughing at poor reporting or being baffled by the misinformation presented by most major newsgroups. The honest truth is that most newsgroups, like the general public, have little to no base knowledge required to understand changes in regulation, policy, etc. Sometimes I feel like we're in the same boat! I'm encouraging you to look for better resources for aviation news. A good place to start would be to ask your fellow aviators what they like to read or where they get their news.

HercDriver130 04-18-2010 08:33 PM

christ dude its about privacy.....plain and simple its not any ones business but the owner of the aircraft where and when they fly.

Contrail727 04-18-2010 09:33 PM

The general public has no need to know----they are a curious bunch....nothing better to do. The ones who need to know....already know....like the Govt.

ce650 04-19-2010 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by tennesseeflyboy (Post 797748)
Just read about this special deal that Business aircraft and others, that are members of NBAA and other entities have been receiving the special flight information blocking protections. USATODAY reported it recently.

The big claim has been SECURITY. So what about everyone else that does not know about this program or cannot afford or want to pay the bucks to NBAA to get this special deal ?

I was needless to say incensed at the thought that FAA has allowed for such blatant and arrogant misuse of PUBLIC information, to be witheld by a select group of corporations and individuals.
My gut tells me that once again, in this great land of ours, there is always going to be some entity or agenda to promote so called protections, as long as it is paid for.
Either everyone gets the same treatment or no one should be getting it.

Really? You dont know anything about corperate aviation do you?

Oh by the way. I am going flying today and you dont know where I am going!

III Corps 04-19-2010 04:28 AM

[QUOTE=UCLAbruins;797830]right on Boiler

Is not about safety or security, its about privacy...[QUOTE]

you think the execs at outfits like Coke or Home Depot or other big companies travelling internationally want their schedules published for anyone to see? When airplanes are hardened and equipped with encrypted comm, security is a big issue.


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