I'm on it, thanks!

In fact a friend of mine does do contract 57 flying and he does his recurrent up here in Seattle at the place in the link below. Check it out, it looks like they are hiring as well.

Premairflighttraining

Thanks again, but it's moving me in the wrong direction. I would like to get back to Corporate aviation. I was hoping the Boeing time would help with the large cabin Corporate operators, just no luck yet and not sure it will help!

I did hear from a CP last week that I've been communicating with for the past few months, that my former CP position could have been construed as a threat. Also since I'm flying part 121 now, they felt that I would run to the airlines in the next pilot shortage. So... I didn't get the job, even though I have nearly 3000 hours in type and really wanted that position.

Man this stinks!

I hear ya. I went through similar issues when I left the airlines. Some flight departments just dont want to risk hiring an airline guy. Sounds like you have the right idea with the dumbed down resume version. Just show the capacity you worked in but leave out the department manager reference and hopefully you can get in for an interview and show them that your not out to take over the world -- you just want a job.

I still wouldnt shun the big jet stuff though. There are quite a few jobs in those abroad if you have any interest in doing that kind of thing. I believe ACASS out of Montreal deals with the heavy corporate stuff on occasion.

Why is this. I have been trying to break into the corprate world for years and no joy at all. Any advice on breaking in? I have tried Flight Saftey and CAE but those guys are not hiring unless you are already typed right now.

Where. I applied for a Gulfstream Job in China. They quit hiring non typed pilots for it and hired only 1 of 14 that interviewed. He was typed on the GV. I was ready to pay for my GV type for the job. It paid slightly south of 200k. If you are looking for details on it just pm me.

Any intel or advice on getting an initial type on a Gulfstream or Global. I am willing to work anywhere for one of those aircraft. I would go overseas for the right job on any other plane.

I know folks hired by CAE and FSI in the last few months to instruct in large-cabin bizjet programs without having a type in the model they will be teaching.

This is going to sound harsh, but:

You either aren't competitive, or they can see you are applying in order to get a rating and will split at the very first flying job you can get.

Which is why a lot of corporate operators are leery of hiring airline pilots.

As for "breaking in"....networking is the best possible thing you can do.

That, and a willingness to "settle" for something smaller than the two largest ultra-long range airframes in existance.

I think you missed the first part of exchange with the other poster. When I said big aircraft I meant the real big aircraft like BBJs and corporate heavys not Gulfstreams and Globals. Those jobs are hard to come by anywhere in the world. It's almost 5 times more expensive to get a G550 type a it is to get a 737NG.

Most of us on here would like to fly the premier corporate jets but you don't just walk into those jobs unless you were extremely lucky. Not sure what you are coming out of but there are a lot of other airframes that you can look at which pay pretty well.

Why the obsession with the Gulfstream or Global? Please dont think that means the job/pay is better? Its not that simple. I know Hawker and Citation pilots who make more than Gulfstream pilots.....is that the norm?? NO...but you get the point.

And please know, the willingness to pay for your own 50K school would make me think you are a complete nutjob and I'd never even interview you. I also would be concerned that you are willing to go anywhere, anyhow, to fly these airplanes. Strange $hit IMHO.

You are doing this all wrong.

Good Luck.

This is very true in my experience. In my younger years I was pretty open to just about working anywhere and ended up keeping the same crappy job for way too long. Now that I have more stability(married & homeowner) in my life it seems that job offers are easier to come by. I know these things shouldn't play a part in hiring and if they do I'd imagine it would be illegal some how, but I have a feeling Flight department managers like stability in a pilot.

Agree.

Definitely plays a role in hiring, and cant see how its illegal?...most people want to hire stable, normal people with lives/interests. I don't care if you are single or don't have kids etc...but please, have some sense of stability.

Put it this way....how many career contract go anywhere Gulfstream/Global Gods would you put in the "normal" category....not a single one I have ever met.

Then again, there are plenty of oddball departments/jobs out there...so theres something for everyone!

:)