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Old 08-28-2013, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by adavis29
I have read this thread and have looked at the some what questionable NBAA salary survey for a CJ2.
NBAA salary data is reliable, probably second only to Stanton/Gallagher in terms of accuracy; it is submitted to NBAA by each participating organization's NBAA contact. A CJ2 falls in the "NBAA Jet II" category.

Pro Pilot is sort of a "questionable" survey because it is submitted by anybody that reads the magazine.

You need to interview the employer, just as much as the employer is interviewing you, to determine if the employer would be a good fit for you (not all are good fits for everybody). A few things to consider, in no particular order:

1. How is the airplane used (common airports, trips, passenger loads, etc.)?
2. How many days per week of work are typical (flying/sitting on the road)? How long are typical trips...day trips, out-and-backs, multi-day & multi-leg?
3. How many weekends/holidays worked
4. What is the expense policy for meals/rental cars/hotels/tips/etc
5. How do days off work? What about being 'on call'? Vacation/time off policy?
6. Health & stability of the employer (company or individual)
7. Expectations of the employer for you, to include what if any additional duties you will have
8. What kind/where/how often for training?

Industry standard for full-time pilots is a SALARY with standard benefits (medical/dental, 401K, cell phone or allowance, uniforms <be it 'airline style', business casual, suits, whatever>, etc).
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Old 08-28-2013, 11:34 AM
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Thanks for the pointers and questions BU.


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Old 08-28-2013, 11:52 AM
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BoilerUp check your PM's please.
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:07 PM
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BU, as usual, hit all the right beats. Two things I'll add:

- Hold off on salary questions/discussion unless the interviewer brings it up. On a first interview, it's more of a "get to know you", and for you to get to know them. If they like you, a phone call or second interview will follow, and that's the time to get down to brass tacks. Talk of money at the first meeting may put some people off. But, if they bring it up, or you get the sense that they are ready to hire you, or you are sure this is the only chance you'll have to talk with them, then go for it. But in general money discussions are more a part of the job offer negotiations than the initial interview.

- Ask about what sort of OpsSpecs or SOPs they have. If they say, "huh?" then that's probably not a good sign. If they have at least a set of guidelines (assuming it's Part 91), then I think that shows there's some thought to procedures and proper leadership/management of the operation.
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
NBAA salary data is reliable, probably second only to Stanton/Gallagher in terms of accuracy; it is submitted to NBAA by each participating organization's NBAA contact. A CJ2 falls in the "NBAA Jet II" category.

Pro Pilot is sort of a "questionable" survey because it is submitted by anybody that reads the magazine.

You need to interview the employer, just as much as the employer is interviewing you, to determine if the employer would be a good fit for you (not all are good fits for everybody). A few things to consider, in no particular order:

1. How is the airplane used (common airports, trips, passenger loads, etc.)?
2. How many days per week of work are typical (flying/sitting on the road)? How long are typical trips...day trips, out-and-backs, multi-day & multi-leg?
3. How many weekends/holidays worked
4. What is the expense policy for meals/rental cars/hotels/tips/etc
5. How do days off work? What about being 'on call'? Vacation/time off policy?
6. Health & stability of the employer (company or individual)
7. Expectations of the employer for you, to include what if any additional duties you will have
8. What kind/where/how often for training?

Industry standard for full-time pilots is a SALARY with standard benefits (medical/dental, 401K, cell phone or allowance, uniforms <be it 'airline style', business casual, suits, whatever>, etc).
As a corporation with flight operations, I would agree with everything you said. Good post.
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