satpak77

I have a 1100 guy who is King Air copilot on our 350. Me, being an MEI, am actively training him and putting him on empty legs in the left seat.

we are getting some "push back" from Simuflite on whether he can be ATP'ed at the 1500 hour mark. I say I am endorsing his logbook when he is getting bonafide instruction and this should count. He is going to take his written soon, and holds 1st class Medical.

Any ideas how we can ATP-him ? Found simuflite's response weird, but I have been wrong before.

thanks

threeighteen

How many hours of dual have you given him on the aircraft? Does he meet the 500 PIC XC requirement along with the other requirements.

KSCessnaDriver

You mean the 500 hours of cross country, right? There is no 500 hour PIC cross country requirement.

satpak77

well actually every flight we have some component of legit bonafide training, either seat. I am inclined to endorse all flights

fjetter

Does it have to do with them PIC typing with relatively low-hours? Any chance they can ATP him with a PIC limitation (requiring 25 hrs with another rated PIC) before he can earn a full type?

satpak77

I will check further. One of our admin ladies called and she may not have presented the correct picture. It sounds like they were not aware he is flying at all times with a MEI/CFII and thus potentially logging legal flight hours under the watch of the MEI. (I mean we are always learning while up front...)

Sounds like they were told "Pilot Jones has 1100 hours and is right seat on King Air, and when he reaches 1500 we want to ATP him"

so.....

GlobalEx

I dont see why they should have an issue, as long as he meets all of the requirements for a type rating.

Is he possibly not of good moral character?

satpak77

yessssss he is good dude

Red Forman

I have heard that sometimes Simuflite and Flight Safety don't like typing guys that are near the minimum qualifications. I think they view it as a liability problem. Even though it may be legal in the FAAs eyes, they don't want it coming back on them if he screws something up after he has gone through their training.

rickair7777

Be very careful! You are on thin ice here (actually it's already cracked IMO).

The FAA only allows logging of dual when legit training is being conducted. This seems to include...

- Requirements for certs, ratings, endorsements
- Currency
- Club checkout, insurance checkout
- Area FAM
- Route FAM
- Environment FAM (ex. mountains)
- Aircraft FAM

You are doing aircraft FAM (route FAM might apply on the first round trip). The problem here is that it's customary and reasonable to spend 1-5 hours on ASEL, maybe 10 on AMEL and possibly as much as 40-50 on a turbine aircraft. There is no reasonable precedent to spend 400 hours doing aircraft FAM, therefore that time would not seem to qualify as legit dual.

I'm not surprised SF won't touch it...I wouldn't either frankly.

But that's just my read of the lay of the land...I don't know if the FAA has written policy on how much dual you can do.