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Aerophile 05-30-2014 06:00 PM

BTW, LinkdIn is nothing but another gateway for social narcissism, or perhaps professional narcissism in LinkdIn's case. When I managed a flight department, if I had a pilot resume come across my desk or emailed to me that was generated by LinkdIn, it went straight into the garbage. I didn't give it a second look. Just my $0.02

ThreeGreens 05-31-2014 10:50 PM

Well, no linkedin then.

Hobbit64 06-01-2014 12:24 AM

Should I delete my Linkedin profile (i.e. online resume) then?

satpak77 06-01-2014 12:35 AM


Originally Posted by ThreeGreens (Post 1652644)
Hey Guys,

There is a particular group that I am interested in flying for here in Texas but I have no connections. I am thinking about walking my resume through their front door and handing it over to their DO or CP for their perusal. Have any of you guys had any success with that method? I mean the worst thing they could say is "….not interested" or pull the lever to the trap doors and down I go into the gator pit. Has anyone had any luck with Linkedin? They are a little expensive but I guess in the realm of getting a great 91 job that cost is irrelevant. Any thoughts…experiences…? The only thing I have going for me is I am current on a type in their fleet.

Thanks

try to obtain Chief Pilot's name somehow. Airport board/commission/whatever they call it may know of it. Where do they buy fuel ? What company does the flight department support ? Where do they get their planes maintained at ? etc Etc

try to gather more intel

bernouli 06-01-2014 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by Aerophile (Post 1655031)
BTW, LinkdIn is nothing but another gateway for social narcissism, or perhaps professional narcissism in LinkdIn's case. When I managed a flight department, if I had a pilot resume come across my desk or emailed to me that was generated by LinkdIn, it went straight into the garbage. I didn't give it a second look. Just my $0.02

Perhaps that's why you don't manage one anymore.

What do you have against a candidate making use of technology and social media?

NowCorporate 06-01-2014 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Hobbit64 (Post 1655675)
Should I delete my Linkedin profile (i.e. online resume) then?

No, definitely not.

Many employers today check your social media sites prior to employment. They expect a basic professional Linkedin page. No, its not required, but having nothing at all also raises questions (to some HR people) Also, while it's usefulness is limited like any social media/web board, I have gotten many contract leads from Linkedin.

I have also gotten many resumes, and NO, I don't throw them out. I quickly refer the candidate to our online application process and tell them to mention they got in touch on Linkedin.

Just be sure your Facebook (if used) isn't full of excess garbage, especially rants and pictures about your current aviation job. The things people post on Facebook about their bosses trips, houses, airplanes etc. really surprise me....they have no clue that what they post will keep them from many jobs or at least be a red flag.

Cold Calls - really, really try to call first and ask if you can drop a resume off. An NBAA guide or a google search will get you most numbers. If I'm around and people drop in I'm happy to spend a few minutes with them, but I will tell them if they called I could have set aside some more time, gave them tour, taken them to lunch, etc.

Many times a dispatcher or a maint tech comes by, drops off a resume, and says "hey this guy was at the door earlier" and myself or the DO never knew....missed opportunity!

Appointments are great, managers today are often busy with the everyday BS and work off a schedule.

727gm 06-01-2014 08:35 AM

I can't think that Linked-In would be any use for pilot job hunting. My brother has gotten jobs thru Linked-in, but he's a software engineer.

cruiseclimb 06-01-2014 12:05 PM

I've walked resumes into mid-level jobs with great success, but never the higher tier companies (Monsanto, Coke, Home Depot).. For those, you need someone to walk you in usually. My buddies working in places like that say that for every opening, most guys working there have loaded the CP inbox early with personal recommendations.

NowCorporate 06-01-2014 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by cruiseclimb (Post 1655927)
I've walked resumes into mid-level jobs with great success, but never the higher tier companies (Monsanto, Coke, Home Depot).. For those, you need someone to walk you in usually. My buddies working in places like that say that for every opening, most guys working there have loaded the CP inbox early with personal recommendations.

They do, but in many departments HR is very involved in the hiring process, and will insist on outside applicants also.

This gives non-rec'd people a real shot, as even internal rec's don't always pan out.

If you have your mind set on a particular place, Apply and follow up. Be persistent.

NowCorporate 06-01-2014 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by 727gm (Post 1655821)
I can't think that Linked-In would be any use for pilot job hunting. My brother has gotten jobs thru Linked-in, but he's a software engineer.

For an airline job, I'd 100% agree. As far as corporate, it definitely has use/value. How much? no idea....but certainly worth the 5mins it takes to create a profile.

Of course, the best connections are still real, live, non-internet friends who will put their name on you.


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