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121isnofun 03-26-2015 06:43 AM

While I respect the fact that each is entitled to their own opinion, I find it laughable that so many think a major 121 gig is so fundamentally different than a regional gig. The similarities faaarrr outweigh the differences. And for some us, those differences aren't enticing enough. Not by a long shot. Some guys eat up the hub/spoke, uniform, flight attendants, big airplane, etc... Just not for me when given the choice in my particular situation.

At the end of the day, we all value things differently. And that's okay.

biigD 03-26-2015 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by 121isnofun (Post 1850010)
While I respect the fact that each is entitled to their own opinion, I find it laughable that so many think a major 121 gig is so fundamentally different than a regional gig.

People see it depending on their priorities. For me, the bottom line is what my W2 and 401(k) looks like at the end of the year, how many days I need to be away from my home to make that happen, and finally my ability to move my schedule around to better serve that time at home.

So coming from that perspective, there's a pretty big difference between my legacy and a regional carrier.

BPWI 03-26-2015 07:41 AM

I think your odds may be better to find a job at a major than say a Top 5% corporate gig, but I assure you the benefits are nowhere near the same. Congrats to the OP btw, best wishes to starting your new career path-

tennesseeflyboy 03-26-2015 04:00 PM

I flew three corporate jobs before getting a job with a 121 carrier. The corporate thing never pays enough $$$, I don't care who you work for, they are all cheap assess trying to get you to do "extras" for them as if you were their lackey ...... If you don't mind carrying someones bags, driving the Boss's wife to go on a shopping spree, having to hang around at the Boss's house because he "likes you there" .............. There are some really nice corporate jobs out there where you don't have to deal directly with the Boss, you show up for work, do your stuff, go home ............. almost like an airline job, but not quite. The airlines are a pain in the ass, but you have your days off guaranteed, you know that only Seniority will allow you to gain certain aspects of the job that being junior would not allow for. There is NO PERFECT flying job .......... I don't care who you fly for, there is something that is bugging you .............

beech1980 03-26-2015 05:46 PM

I have gone from 91,135, fractional to 121. I prefer the 121. I know my schedule, I can bid to fly more or less if i want. Im not gone over half of my life. I go to work fly and go home!! NO BS.

I have friends at NetJets and Delta. Everyone complains. I have friends are garbage outfits and they love it. you cant make everyone happy all the time.

NoSidNoStar 03-27-2015 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by biigD (Post 1850026)
People see it depending on their priorities. For me, the bottom line is what my W2 and 401(k) looks like at the end of the year, how many days I need to be away from my home to make that happen, and finally my ability to move my schedule around to better serve that time at home.

So coming from that perspective, there's a pretty big difference between my legacy and a regional carrier.

Thank you.........

NoSidNoStar 03-27-2015 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by BPWI (Post 1850084)
I think your odds may be better to find a job at a major than say a Top 5% corporate gig, but I assure you the benefits are nowhere near the same. Congrats to the OP btw, best wishes to starting your new career path-

And if you compare the top5% pay and benefit in a legacy or major, to those corporate gigs you mentioned, I assure you the benefits and pay! and QOL are nowhere near the same neither, largely in favor of the 121 side again. Apples to apples.

NoSidNoStar 03-27-2015 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by tennesseeflyboy (Post 1850468)
I flew three corporate jobs before getting a job with a 121 carrier. The corporate thing never pays enough $$$, I don't care who you work for, they are all cheap assess trying to get you to do "extras" for them as if you were their lackey ...... If you don't mind carrying someones bags, driving the Boss's wife to go on a shopping spree, having to hang around at the Boss's house because he "likes you there" .............. There are some really nice corporate jobs out there where you don't have to deal directly with the Boss, you show up for work, do your stuff, go home ............. almost like an airline job, but not quite. The airlines are a pain in the ass, but you have your days off guaranteed, you know that only Seniority will allow you to gain certain aspects of the job that being junior would not allow for. There is NO PERFECT flying job .......... I don't care who you fly for, there is something that is bugging you .............

Thank you. And what might not be clear to who is outside, that in 121 your schedule changes as you gain seniority, while in a corporate it stays the wait it is for the duration of the employment.

NoSidNoStar 03-27-2015 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by beech1980 (Post 1850542)
I have gone from 91,135, fractional to 121. I prefer the 121. I know my schedule, I can bid to fly more or less if i want. Im not gone over half of my life. I go to work fly and go home!! NO BS.

I have friends at NetJets and Delta. Everyone complains. I have friends are garbage outfits and they love it. you cant make everyone happy all the time.

True, human beings are impossible to satisfy.
But who experienced both, is happier in a major.
Few exceptions, usually related to atypical personal circumstances.

NoSidNoStar 03-27-2015 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 1849887)
Considering he was around 40 when he left, I kind of doubt he was eligible for an early retirement. But I'm sure you will find some way to tell me I am wrong.

So you don't know for a fact? Wasn't he a friend of yours?


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