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Old 07-16-2014, 11:45 AM
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Silly question or not by OP, I still want to know how he is going to "enforce the contract"
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Old 07-16-2014, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by beech1980 View Post
If I cant go golfing and drink a few beers because I might have to fly then IM NOT OFF! Please make them pay you a fair salary! If they have the dough to buy a big jet they can pay you.
That's why they're supposed to be paying a big salary, you're hired help (just like the chauffeur), and as such you don't get "hard" days off (or very few).

If they're not making it worth your while in either pay or in QOL then it's not worth it.
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Old 07-16-2014, 01:21 PM
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Silly question or not by OP, I still want to know how he is going to "enforce the contract"
I think you already answered that question. You quit. That's about all you can do, but it's still not a bad idea to have some general guidelines as to what is considered acceptable.

I started to write up a little contract and realized it was a waste of time. Instead, I will just be straight forward with the owners when we discuss pay next week.

I've known the family for a long time now and they are great people and very understanding. Last year they had a trip on Thanksgiving and basically said they would charter a different airplane if I already had family plans. However, I was just a contract pilot for them at that time.
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Old 07-16-2014, 01:57 PM
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Most guys who transition from 121 into the 91/135 corporate world have a huge culture shock. They are very used to the brake to brake responsibility theory, FA takes care of catering, cleaning the plane???, ensuring MX is scheduled and completed???, dept and equip are kept 110%???? and oh my......loading bags.

As for the phone, I'm gonna guess you want the boss to pay for this phone too. The professional thing to do is have a man to man discussion with him before hand about what is expected.
If you don't like he says...walk.
We utilize a standard of answer or call back asap 24 hrs a day. Now with that said, the boss isn't calling me at 4am to head for Vegas either.
We also utilize a min 2hrs to show time if Emer trip comes up. If we do better, then we do better....but I can't be chastised for not being there in 45 mins.
To be in a corporate gig means being tied to a phone. A properly staffed dept should also have enough people to allow for guys to alternate days off.
With only flying 250hrs a year, time off won't be your worry. You will searching for work in order to get away from home.

Enjoy the new gig and congrats on escaping the regional life.
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Old 07-16-2014, 02:06 PM
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With only flying 250hrs a year, time off won't be your worry. You will searching for work in order to get away from home.

Enjoy the new gig and congrats on escaping the regional life.
Going from about 900/year to 250 will be a lot different than my regional life! Thanks for your input. I appreciate all the good info.
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Old 07-16-2014, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi View Post
That's why they're supposed to be paying a big salary, you're hired help (just like the chauffeur), and as such you don't get "hard" days off (or very few).

If they're not making it worth your while in either pay or in QOL then it's not worth it.
Thats why I quit!
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Old 07-16-2014, 02:31 PM
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Thats why I quit!
Can be true as well, A 91 gig can be the best or worst. Don't oversell yourself. Like where the application says special talents or abilities, be careful. When they know you have a 100 ton license you will be running the yacht too...
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Old 07-16-2014, 04:15 PM
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be careful with this attitude. flying 5 days a week for a regional may prove to be a cakewalk compared to flying 5 days a week for a corporation, then taking the owners to the beach or mountain home on the weekend, and be available the whole time (except your vacation). rinse, then repeat.
in the corporate world, you are expected to be available to fly, not just fly. flyings the understood part. you've got to figure out the availability/money portion.


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Going from about 900/year to 250 will be a lot different than my regional life! Thanks for your input. I appreciate all the good info.
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Old 07-16-2014, 04:17 PM
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i didn't mean to imply you have an attitude....but its just a common misconception in people going airline to corporate, and it usually doesnt end well for either party.

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Old 07-16-2014, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda2 View Post
Can be true as well, A 91 gig can be the best or worst. Don't oversell yourself. Like where the application says special talents or abilities, be careful. When they know you have a 100 ton license you will be running the yacht too...
I knew of a guy that this happened too! He eventually got a helicopter cert, to fly his chopper. He got a boat license to drive his 90 footer, and To top it all off he even drove his limo... The sad part of it all was he only was making 150k to do it all. BTW the jet was a lear 60. Thats worth at least 300k in my book and a great retirement and a company Range Rover!!
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