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mohaupt 01-12-2015 10:26 AM

61.55 SIC type
 
Long time listener first time caller.

Called a corporate outfit about a job and they mentioned I would have to go through a 61.55 before I could be hired.

What does that involve? I currently have a type rating in the CRJ (7.5 years of experience too) so I am guessing I wouldnt have any problems?

Thanks in advance
~M

biigD 01-12-2015 11:29 AM

It can entail anything from full motion sim training at a place like FlightSafety, down to a dude pencil whipping a signiff that you then take to your FSDO for your type, without your ever seeing the airplane.

Welcome to corporate aviation! :)

BoilerUP 01-12-2015 11:34 AM

Googling FAR 61.55 and reading (b)(2) will answer your question.

(d) discusses how one obtains a SIC type rating.

mohaupt 01-12-2015 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 1801838)
Googling FAR 61.55 and reading (b)(2) will answer your question.

(d) discusses how one obtains a SIC type rating.

Thanks
~M

galaxy flyer 01-12-2015 12:45 PM

It's an SIC check, see the FAR 61.55 to see what's needed. I don't quite understand how you can do it-- you need some ground training and a flight or sim time. All the training centers will rUN 61.55 courses, but expensive.

GF

mohaupt 01-12-2015 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 1801912)
It's an SIC check, see the FAR 61.55 to see what's needed. I don't quite understand how you can do it-- you need some ground training and a flight or sim time. All the training centers will rUN 61.55 courses, but expensive.

GF


He mentioned 2 days of ground school and a sim check, they would cover it of course. But a Flight/Sim is not required


(d) A person may receive a second-in-command pilot type rating for an aircraft after satisfactorily completing the second-in-command familiarization training requirements under paragraph (b) of this section in that type of aircraft provided the training was completed within the 12 calendar months before the month of application for the SIC pilot type rating. The person must comply with the following application and pilot certification procedures:

(7) There is no practical test required for the issuance of the “SIC Privileges Only” pilot type rating


Seems like it could just all be ground school if that's what they wanted.
~M

galaxy flyer 01-12-2015 01:56 PM

Reread FAR 61.55 paragraph b which does require three take-offs and landings, plus a go-around and OEI work. Paragraph d refers directly to meeting the flight requirements of paragraph b.

GF

PerfInit 01-12-2015 02:27 PM

61.55 is neither a Proficiency Check or Practical Test. Relax. If you previously passed a CRJ type ride, the 61.55 will be much less stress..

billythekid 01-12-2015 05:22 PM

I read Galaxyflyer comments, but are FSDOs tightening up on this at all? Alot of places are still doing 3 takeoff/landings and a "ground school". Never heard of anyone declined an SIC by the FSDO (or an operator when they really needed a gearslinger).
A 61.55 has always been an absolute nobrainer. A very legal way to quickly fill a seat.

givememywings 01-13-2015 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 1801953)
Reread FAR 61.55 paragraph b which does require three take-offs and landings, plus a go-around and OEI work. Paragraph d refers directly to meeting the flight requirements of paragraph b.

GF

^^^I did this in the G-III when I was first hired before I went to FS to get the real Type. Our POI was in the jumpseat. Had a roundtable oral as well. Pretty simple other than flying a G-III for the first time :eek::eek::eek:

biigD 01-13-2015 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by billythekid (Post 1802080)
I read Galaxyflyer comments, but are FSDOs tightening up on this at all? Alot of places are still doing 3 takeoff/landings and a "ground school". Never heard of anyone declined an SIC by the FSDO (or an operator when they really needed a gearslinger).

I don't think they've tightened it up, at least not around here. My local FSDO just wants to see a signoff indicating that 61.55 has been met. Whether or not any of that training has actually been done, the FSDO doesn't verify. So it's *very* abused.

Some operators take 61.55 seriously and do the training, but many don't.


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