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Umm, you could quit for any crappy charter gig and be better off. Why on earth would you stay!? Every day you stay, convinces the owners to never do the right thing and actually treat their pilot right.

"24/7 365 on call. "

That alone is reason enough to bail - everything else just seals the deal. You paid your dues and got your time, time to move on. "Burnout" is an understatement.

And they are all correct about the 1099 - if you can't pick and choose which trips you accept, then you are not a contractor, you are an employee.

Best wishes.

Get out immediately!!!!!! That is one of the worst job descriptions I have ever heard.

Every other operator flying your plane has better pay, better benefits, and a better schedule. This is not a joke. Leave your job and fly the same plane somewhere else where you will be happier.

That sounds terrible! 500 bucks a day contract rate, and a retainer if you are on call. If they don't like it leave.

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What's the end game? Airlines? If so, I'd just head to the regionals.

Otherwise, can you move for the job? 1500 hours won't likely get you a great charter gig, but it'll definitely get you something better than you have now. That situation is horrible - you need out. And while you might be able to negotiate with them, I doubt you'll get the kind of gains to justify sticking around.

JMO.

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Originally Posted by BPWI (Post 2003376)

Everyone has had crummy jobs in this profession, but most importantly you want to be able to show recency in flight as well as biting off more than you can chew without another offer letter in hand. Sounds like it may be time to part ways either way. Best of luck-

Too right. Surprisingly for some of you, this is a marked improvement over my previous job.

Spoke with manager expressing my concerns. He basically said "well, there's no way the owner will go for any of this, you already make more than the previous guy did". He said he'll discuss it.

I think I already have my answer. Fired off several job applications to regionals and others this weekend.

Thanks for letting me know I'm not crazy.

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Originally Posted by HeWhoRazethAll (Post 2003211)

Hey everybody,

Wanted to get some perspective(s). I'm burning out at my current gig and trying to make sure that I'm not being unreasonable.

Here are the facts:

Single Pilot, 1 Aircraft (single turbo-prop)

24/7 365 on call. 56K a year. No bennies (1099). Hotels, but no meals or rental car paid for. No hard days off or PTO. No relief pilot. $50 per diem.

An average month is 17 days flying, 12-13 days overnights. Usually 12 hours notice, but about 25% less than that. Lots of redeyes and some international flying too.

I negotiated the terms for 2 years when it was represented that I'd be flying MAYBE 150 hours a year and they encouraged me to have other part time flying. I've flown 286 hours in 7 months, been gone 89 days out of the past 120. I have to give up trips on other jets all the time because of my lack of schedule.

I feel like I'm flying too much for too little (so say we all), but I am gone more than the average regional guy and not making much more coin after taxes, and I don't have hard days off. I figure I should be making $500 (+) per day if I'm flying this much and on-call 24/7, either that or I need solid days off.

My plan is to have a sit-down with the mgr and renegotiate compensation/schedule or walk (Boutique, Surf, something like that; or maybe even a Regional). They're nice enough people, but I'm burning out.

Also, I'm a pretty young guy just over ATP mins a year ago.

Am I being unreasonable?

If it's part.135 you need a minimum of 13 days off a quarter. I would tell them at least 500 a day plus car and hotels. Get him to also pay for trianing if you go to a flight safety.
Hard days off and PTO are esential as well.
The only way these types of jobs will go away are if people stand up for themselves!
PIC in a single pilot turbo prop is a serious job with a lot of responsibility. It should be compensated so...
Low time or not you are a professional pilot.

OP. You said you got your ATP min a year ago. You said you are young. You already wasted a year of your life. That is more than half a million dollars less in your pocket the day you retire. The regionals are hiring, don't waste more time.

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Originally Posted by NoSidNoStar (Post 2005029)

Ugh...I know you're trolling, but like a moth to flame I can't resist:

Not everyone wants to be an airline pilot. And I say that as an airline pilot at a legacy carrier. That said, if this guy wants to eventually fly for the airlines, I think you're right - he needs to head to the regionals.