Pilot shortages at corporate ops?
04-04-2016, 07:30 PM
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Pilot shortages at corporate ops?
I remember not too long ago, a GOOD corporate job was often tougher to get than a major airline job. If you didn't know anyone at a corporate, your chances were slim. Has that changed at all today with the shortage affecting all the 121 carriers? I'm talking about top tier-jobs like Exxon-Mobile, Walmart, GE, etc... flying stuff like BBJs and G650s. The 121 carriers keep upping the ante, and it's getting better and better. I'm just wondering if the pay, retirement, and benefits at those good corporate jobs are on par with the majors/legacies, or even the better regionals. Do any of you corporate guys see a major change looming in the next 5-10 years?
04-04-2016, 08:56 PM
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My dad recently retired from a major oil company that is a direct competitor to Exxon Mobile off of a Gulfstream. I make more as an 8 year FO at United on a narrowbody than he made at the end of his career. His career earnings were atrocious when taken as a whole. He had like 5-7 good earning years at the end of his career, but the average numbers he put up sucked when you compare them to an average legacy airline guy. That said, I have friends that are ride or die corporate types that don't want to be airline pilots. Paywise, I think the vast majority of corporate flying jobs are falling way behind in pay and benefits, not to mention quality of life issues.
04-05-2016, 05:13 AM
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It appears that companies and DO's in charge have had a hard time getting past the 100k number and convincing CFO's that the "tool"(no pun intended) that is a big RED number on the financial sheet should be paid more.
In my area it is getting harder to find qualified people who also would fit in with the operation and there are many who are coming up on retirement so i feel salaries will need to follow in Walmarts footsteps and give some large raises across the board.
In my area it is getting harder to find qualified people who also would fit in with the operation and there are many who are coming up on retirement so i feel salaries will need to follow in Walmarts footsteps and give some large raises across the board.
04-05-2016, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Vital Signs
It appears that companies and DO's in charge have had a hard time getting past the 100k number and convincing CFO's that the "tool"(no pun intended) that is a big RED number on the financial sheet should be paid more.
In my area it is getting harder to find qualified people who also would fit in with the operation and there are many who are coming up on retirement so i feel salaries will need to follow in Walmarts footsteps and give some large raises across the board.
In my area it is getting harder to find qualified people who also would fit in with the operation and there are many who are coming up on retirement so i feel salaries will need to follow in Walmarts footsteps and give some large raises across the board.
04-05-2016, 11:20 AM
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We pilots can be our own worst enemy.
Where one guy says he won't fly the G650 for less than 160K, there is a guy who will be glad to step up for 100K.
There's always someone behind you waiting for you to vacate "his" seat.
There will be some good operators who will pay the right price to the right guys.
Where one guy says he won't fly the G650 for less than 160K, there is a guy who will be glad to step up for 100K.
There's always someone behind you waiting for you to vacate "his" seat.
There will be some good operators who will pay the right price to the right guys.
04-05-2016, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RI830
Where one guy says he won't fly the G650 for less than 160K, there is a guy who will be glad to step up for 100K.
There's always someone behind you waiting for you to vacate "his" seat.
There's always someone behind you waiting for you to vacate "his" seat.
04-06-2016, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RI830
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There will be some good operators who will pay the right price to the right guys.
There will be some good operators who will pay the right price to the right guys.
04-06-2016, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Vital Signs
It appears that companies and DO's in charge have had a hard time getting past the 100k number and convincing CFO's that the "tool"(no pun intended) that is a big RED number on the financial sheet should be paid more.
In my area it is getting harder to find qualified people who also would fit in with the operation and there are many who are coming up on retirement so i feel salaries will need to follow in Walmarts footsteps and give some large raises across the board.
In my area it is getting harder to find qualified people who also would fit in with the operation and there are many who are coming up on retirement so i feel salaries will need to follow in Walmarts footsteps and give some large raises across the board.
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