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Stihlsaw 11-17-2016 03:06 AM

Citation Latitude
 
We have an owner of a managed aircraft who is looking at a new Latitude. They have done a demo and seem to like the plane but we (the pilot group) have been hearing nothing good about it from talking to other operators?

Were trying to talk them into looking at other models and we believe there are way better aircraft out there for similar money!

Anyone on here flying one that can give some feedback on it?

BoilerUP 11-17-2016 03:43 AM

A friend (not on this forum) flies one and has been very pleased with it; says it is "typical Citation" in many ways but does the job well, reliably, and comfortably for people in the back.

His biggest gripe is the Garmin avionics, vs. PL21...but that the Garmin gets the job done.

What other airframes do you want to look at?

Stihlsaw 11-17-2016 04:10 AM

Have heard there may be a demo on a Legacy 450

David Puddy 11-17-2016 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by Stihlsaw (Post 2244946)
We have an owner of a managed aircraft who is looking at a new Latitude. They have done a demo and seem to like the plane but we (the pilot group) have been hearing nothing good about it from talking to other operators?

Were trying to talk them into looking at other models and we believe there are way better aircraft out there for similar money!

Anyone on here flying one that can give some feedback on it?

Really? Nothing good? What are the typical gripes so far? I haven't seen one up close but pictures of the cabin look impressive for the pax.

I actually took a close look at a Legacy 450 recently and I really liked it! Fantastic office up front with PL Fusion and the side sticks - and the cabin was great for the money. The Legacy 450 is a real gem for that price range. :cool:

Stihlsaw 11-18-2016 04:53 AM

From 2 operators I've chatted with I hear the same problems

Software issues
plane will not make "book numbers"
No support from "Mother Cessna"

The only good thing I've heard is that the passengers love the cabin and don't seem to notice the extra time enroute due to the agonizingly slow speeds! (not my words, their words)

BoilerUP 11-18-2016 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by Stihlsaw (Post 2245670)
From 2 operators I've chatted with I hear the same problems

Software issues
plane will not make "book numbers"
No support from "Mother Cessna"

What airframes did those two operators fly before the Latitude?

Stihlsaw 11-18-2016 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 2245682)
What airframes did those two operators fly before the Latitude?

All Citation

One turned in a "classic Sovereign" for the Latitude and would go back to it in a heartbeat if they could

I believe the other operator was flying an Excel previously

taxi1wire 11-18-2016 11:37 AM

We have operated a Latitude for just about a year. We also operate a Sovereign and G550. Without a doubt the Latitude has been the star. Not a single maintanance issue for months at a time. Biggest issue in a year has been a light bulb out. I will take the G5000 over the G550 avionics any day. It makes the G550 look old.

We have taken the Latitude on 45 hour Asia trips as far as Hong Kong out of the UA east coast and come back without a single write up.

It is in for the software update with performance etc. It will back flying and on schedule after just 5 days for the upgrade and itsannual maintenance. It is a Citation and you get all the good that comes with that. Performance is by the book. Not a M80 aircraft. Never meant to be. 5.7 hour legs can be done with 1.5 hours fuel real reserve.

For reliability and prediacatbility with a great cabin it can't be beat. It is not a Challenger 350 nor a G280 but is sure beats our Sovereign!

grimmdj 11-18-2016 02:27 PM

Anything reliable beats a Challenger 300/350.
Dave

galaxy flyer 11-18-2016 04:17 PM

What reliability problems have you had?

GF


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