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fadec 04-02-2020 01:26 PM

35 Delta pilots positive?
 
Apparently 35 Delta pilots have tested positive for the virus. I heard it was on the Delta ALPA website.
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Just a heads up. With the sick UA pilot reporting his recovery here today, the email from Bob Fox stating that the airlines are not following CDC guidance for cleaning up and notifying others after a pilot tests positive, and the CCS message saying that masks are now in the CPO as available, and the sick employee in Willis Tower (who whished to remain anonymous) saying the company was concerned with optics, I have a hunch some news is coming. How many of our guys have it?

Cosa Nostra 04-02-2020 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by fadec (Post 3021187)
Apparently 35 Delta pilots have tested positive for the virus. I heard it was on the Delta ALPA website.
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Just a heads up. With the sick UA pilot reporting his recovery here today, the email from Bob Fox stating that the airlines are not following CDC guidance for cleaning up and notifying others after a pilot tests positive, and the CCS message saying that masks are now in the CPO as available, and the sick employee in Willis Tower (who whished to remain anonymous) saying the company was concerned with optics, I have a hunch some news is coming. How many of our guys have it?

Close to 50 now from latest DAL MEC briefing

MasterOfPuppets 04-02-2020 01:33 PM

29 positive with another 30 awaiting results.

fadec 04-02-2020 03:06 PM

New info.
 
Now I just heard Delta is up to 45 positive. So the "close to 50" checks.

rvfanatic 04-02-2020 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by fadec (Post 3021187)
Apparently 35 Delta pilots have tested positive for the virus. I heard it was on the Delta ALPA website.
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Just a heads up. With the sick UA pilot reporting his recovery here today, the email from Bob Fox stating that the airlines are not following CDC guidance for cleaning up and notifying others after a pilot tests positive, and the CCS message saying that masks are now in the CPO as available, and the sick employee in Willis Tower (who whished to remain anonymous) saying the company was concerned with optics, I have a hunch some news is coming. How many of our guys have it?

What ccs message? Maybe that was domicile specific?

fadec 04-02-2020 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3021351)
What ccs message? Maybe that was domicile specific?

It was "A Message from ..... Apr 01 20 1721 CT". Looked systemwide to me. CPO providing "alcohol-based hand sanitizer, wipes, and masks when available".

​​​​​The mask thing is new. Haven't seen that before. I think before they were only part of the bio cleanup kits but I could be wrong.

rvfanatic 04-02-2020 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by fadec (Post 3021404)
It was "A Message from ..... Apr 01 20 1721 CT". Looked systemwide to me. CPO providing "alcohol-based hand sanitizer, wipes, and masks when available".

​​​​​The mask thing is new. Haven't seen that before. I think before they were only part of the bio cleanup kits but I could be wrong.

Found it thanks. Looks like the company is finally listening.

deltabound 04-02-2020 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by fadec (Post 3021187)
Apparently 35 Delta pilots have tested positive for the virus. I heard it was on the Delta ALPA website.
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Just a heads up. With the sick UA pilot reporting his recovery here today, the email from Bob Fox stating that the airlines are not following CDC guidance for cleaning up and notifying others after a pilot tests positive, and the CCS message saying that masks are now in the CPO as available, and the sick employee in Willis Tower (who whished to remain anonymous) saying the company was concerned with optics, I have a hunch some news is coming. How many of our guys have it?

Optics, huh?

I've been wearing a mask for 2 weeks. Pretty sure the company authorized it awhile ago (although they didn't provide them for domestic crews).

If you or your sweetie pie is sewing enabled, you can make your own (better than nothing.) Amazon is selling "saliva" masks; basically nock offs that aren't approved by the CDC, but will block 70% of the crap out there PLUS keep you from touching your darn face.


IMHO, wear it. Nobody at the airport cares.

hockeypilot44 04-03-2020 02:31 AM

I think it's higher than that. This is just the guys who have reported it to ALPA.

poopplop 04-03-2020 04:20 PM

Congrats, you guys are in the news!

Grumpyaviator 04-03-2020 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by deltabound (Post 3021517)
Optics, huh?

I've been wearing a mask for 2 weeks. Pretty sure the company authorized it awhile ago (although they didn't provide them for domestic crews).

If you or your sweetie pie is sewing enabled, you can make your own (better than nothing.) Amazon is selling "saliva" masks; basically nock offs that aren't approved by the CDC, but will block 70% of the crap out there PLUS keep you from touching your darn face.


IMHO, wear it. Nobody at the airport cares.

Per the CDC, masks aren’t for the protection of the person wearing them but for those around them, since it’s unknown how many individuals are asymptomatic carriers. They don’t need to be n95, save those for healthcare professionals, they just need to prevent droplets exiting the mouth.

As mentioned, they keep the carrier from touching their face, which is 90% of transmission.

AxlF16 04-03-2020 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by poopplop (Post 3022602)
Congrats, you guys are in the news!

Here's a snippet from the article...

Another United pilot reported on his ordeal with coronavirus infection, saying that he “always expected to get it, just never expected to catch it on the front end” -and added that his “last trip was TXL on the 7th. No one from the crew is sick.”

He dialed 911 in the morning of March 25,after coughing up blood. But he reports that he was not feeling well since March 16. On March 18 he visited doctor but the doc only gave him “some cough medicine” and Z pack (antibiotics).
Hmmmm. I wonder where they got THAT info?!

Toadaso 04-03-2020 04:46 PM

So a few weeks ago I had a fever, and sore throat. My daughter also developed a fever and was coughing. I was fortunate enough to get a test due to my previous trip being sea SFO overinights.. It took 12 days to come back negative. During that time I was directed by the doctor to quarantine until the results came back. Apparently this isn't covered under the mou since it wasn't the CDC that directed me to quarantine...
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Pass it on 04-03-2020 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 3022623)
Here's a snippet from the article...

Hmmmm. I wonder where they got THAT info?!

The same place Capt. Brett Crozier who got removed from the Roosevelt used. Hillary Clinton's private email server!

BruhPilot 04-03-2020 08:05 PM

I’m surprised at this news. I figured the brim of the hat, combined with the downward head angle in the terminal, and the multi buttoned coat would have shielded against infection. I blame white gloves not being apart of the uniform as the reason for this.

John Carr 04-03-2020 10:14 PM

How many DAL pilots are positive for running QRH’s, asking for wind checks, or reporting light chop?

BMEP100 04-09-2020 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Toadaso (Post 3022626)
So a few weeks ago I had a fever, and sore throat. My daughter also developed a fever and was coughing. I was fortunate enough to get a test due to my previous trip being sea SFO overinights.. It took 12 days to come back negative. During that time I was directed by the doctor to quarantine until the results came back. Apparently this isn't covered under the mou since it wasn't the CDC that directed me to quarantine...
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I think that is very arguable.The CDC does not generally have clinics open around the country for us to visit.Your doctor was most likely directing you to quarantine in accordance with CDC directives. Ask his office for a letter as such.

Toadaso 04-09-2020 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 3028208)
I think that is very arguable.The CDC does not generally have clinics open around the country for us to visit.Your doctor was most likely directing you to quarantine in accordance with CDC directives. Ask his office for a letter as such.

I'll try the doc. I sent a PDR and talked to the chief pilots office and no dice with either of those.

UALfoLIFE 04-10-2020 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Toadaso (Post 3022626)
So a few weeks ago I had a fever, and sore throat. My daughter also developed a fever and was coughing. I was fortunate enough to get a test due to my previous trip being sea SFO overinights.. It took 12 days to come back negative. During that time I was directed by the doctor to quarantine until the results came back. Apparently this isn't covered under the mou since it wasn't the CDC that directed me to quarantine...
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The current corona virus test has an accuracy problem.

4fans 04-10-2020 10:03 AM

Delta up to 69 pilots confirmed as of yesterday.

horrido27 04-10-2020 10:53 AM

Not really sure why this is big news.
Facts are.. this virus IS everywhere.
The idea of social distancing and shutting things down was not to stop the spread but to flatten out the curve. I had read somewhere that it was expect that 70% would be infected. They just didn't want everyone catching it in March/April. Better to have everyone catch it in March/April/May and into June.

Testing positive doesn't mean you're going to get sick.
Getting sick doesn't mean you are going to end up in the hospital (Like me! lol)
Ending up in the hospital doesn't mean you end up dead.. (again, look at me)(Sorry junior guys..)

Yes, I can attest that this virus is a *****!
That being said, there are over 1000 positives in the NYPD alone. Not sure about the FDNY and God knows how many of the doctors & nurses.

I will place a bet.
In two years.. when this is old news and we have had a vaccine for some time.. it will come out that almost the entire population had it in some form or the other.

So again, what is the big deal about Delta and United pilots testing positive?

Stay Safe, Stay Healthy and Be Well
WE WILL OVERCOME THIS! Better days are ahead
Always
Motch

full of luv 04-10-2020 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 3028906)
Delta up to 69 pilots confirmed as of yesterday.

That's what happens when you win NYC

Learjet driver 04-10-2020 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 3028963)
Not really sure why this is big news.
Facts are.. this virus IS everywhere.
The idea of social distancing and shutting things down was not to stop the spread but to flatten out the curve. I had read somewhere that it was expect that 70% would be infected. They just didn't want everyone catching it in March/April. Better to have everyone catch it in March/April/May and into June.

Testing positive doesn't mean you're going to get sick.
Getting sick doesn't mean you are going to end up in the hospital (Like me! lol)
Ending up in the hospital doesn't mean you end up dead.. (again, look at me)(Sorry junior guys..)

Yes, I can attest that this virus is a *****!
That being said, there are over 1000 positives in the NYPD alone. Not sure about the FDNY and God knows how many of the doctors & nurses.

I will place a bet.
In two years.. when this is old news and we have had a vaccine for some time.. it will come out that almost the entire population had it in some form or the other.

So again, what is the big deal about Delta and United pilots testing positive?

Stay Safe, Stay Healthy and Be Well
WE WILL OVERCOME THIS! Better days are ahead
Always
Motch

I got it..... it sucked and I recovered. Most of us have already had it or will get it! Prayers that everyone recovers!

LJ

757Driver 04-10-2020 07:48 PM

Good grief are we going to get an idiotic count update every 5 minutes with this post?

Yes the numbers will rise but guess what, they're rising for all Americans right now. Please keep the Pilot only numbers to yourself as they're ridiculously lame.

BMEP100 04-11-2020 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 3029384)
Good grief are we going to get an idiotic count update every 5 minutes with this post?

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Probably, or someone complaining about them. This is what happens to a society when they are “locked down”.

Iceberg 04-12-2020 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 3022872)
How many DAL pilots are positive for running QRH’s, asking for wind checks, or reporting light chop?

Wow. You made it over a month without recycling this same old “joke.”

rvfanatic 04-12-2020 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 3028963)
Ending up in the hospital doesn't mean you end up dead.. (again, look at me)(Sorry junior guys..)

Great sense of humor, that’s funny! How’s your recovery going good sir?

Dobbs18 04-12-2020 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 3022872)
How many DAL pilots are positive for running QRH’s, asking for wind checks, or reporting light chop?

check in with Delta Ops next time you are flying...I think the freq is 121.5 but someone from Delta could probably verify this 😉

horrido27 04-13-2020 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3030700)
Great sense of humor, that’s funny! How’s your recovery going good sir?

Every day a little better, thanks!
Will say, currently.. the light infrequent cough I have is probably due to dust/allergies. Now the battle will be to get 2 negative tests AND I want a chest X-Ray to see that mu lungs have healed (sufficiently)

Guys & Gals.. whats crazy about this stupid virus is that there are so many different experience. I (initially) did NOT have CV19 symptoms. Now, I'm home for 12 days, no fever in the last 15 days! But what happens next to me?

Stay Healthy, Safe & Strong
Always
Motch

ApachePhil 04-15-2020 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 3031383)
Every day a little better, thanks!
Will say, currently.. the light infrequent cough I have is probably due to dust/allergies. Now the battle will be to get 2 negative tests AND I want a chest X-Ray to see that mu lungs have healed (sufficiently)

Guys & Gals.. whats crazy about this stupid virus is that there are so many different experience. I (initially) did NOT have CV19 symptoms. Now, I'm home for 12 days, no fever in the last 15 days! But what happens next to me?

Stay Healthy, Safe & Strong
Always
Motch

I don't know where you live or your doctor's orders. But my health department and my Air Line isn't requiring two 2 negative tests to be released from isolation and being authorized to return to work, school, and normal activities (whatever that is given the new world normal.) The health department and my Air Line are using the CDC protocol...the later of 7 days of onset of symptoms and 72 hours after last symptom while not using fever reducing medication.

A local health care center has been given a grant and authorization to do plasma/antibody therapies. For one to donate plasma they have to comply with the CDC protocol, plus 14 days, then pass a swab test to confirming negative virus shedding.

Excargodog 04-17-2020 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by UALfoLIFE (Post 3028792)
The current corona virus test has an accuracy problem.


ALL current coronavirus tests have a predictive value positive AND a predictive value negative problem.

They were rushed into production and then scaled up extremely quickly. They are pretty much usable only to spot trends in groups, and are much less accurate for individual diagnosis.

ApachePhil 04-17-2020 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3034344)
ALL current coronavirus tests have a predictive value positive AND a predictive value negative problem.

They were rushed into production and then scaled up extremely quickly. They are pretty much usable only to spot trends in groups, and are much less accurate for individual diagnosis.

True. They have gotten a lot better quite quickly. But, really, what does a test for any virus really do? Whether HIV, Herpes (HSV1, HSV2, Shingles, ChickenPox) a confirmed positive merely contributes to data for public policy and reaffirm to the infected to do what they should have been doing to begin with. I see so many people "wanting the test" because they are "wanting to know" if they have/had it. They want to know if they are part of the club, and/or they want to know if they "really" need to quarantine/isolate as recommended. I'm afraid that false negatives will only embolden those seeking a reprieve. Much like what a clear STD test does...it typically leads to riskier behavior.

reandld 07-18-2021 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by Perdido (Post 3265317)
Is everyone just a robot repeating what they hear.. Go research yourself..

No Virus, Fungus or Bacteria has built up a resistance to Iodine yet.. a Mineral.
Used 150 years ago .. Iodine Vapors cured the worst Influenzas cases. I have a link to the book on it.

Use in a Nebulizer, with Hydrogen Peroxide.. to coat the lung mucus do the virus can not attach.

Iodine feeds the brain, thyroid, immunity and sex organs.

What is your Union and Doctors actually doing for you?

Shhh you're destroying the Industrial Medical Complex. All these big companies are in bed with Big Tech pushing the vaccine. The Left is too shallow to see how the whole thing's a money grab.

Cosa Nostra 07-18-2021 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by reandld (Post 3265322)
Shhh you're destroying the Industrial Medical Complex. All these big companies are in bed with Big Tech pushing the vaccine. The Left is too shallow to see how the whole thing's a money grab.

The "left" LOL ... the election was also stolen right? You guys are funny.


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