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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3033349)
I can’t stand Trump. Would never vote for him. I can’t however find fault with how he has handled this crisis.
I'd agree that Trump can rub most the wrong way, right up until you hear the sanctimonious Press/Demo leadership that are the face of the opposition each day. This election (IMO) really is coming down to who is the less caustic, irritating, and sanctimonious on a daily basis. Oh and why are we picking on geriatrics with a Biden candidacy, in most states, putting him in this position would be considered elder abuse. Find a candidate who doesn't want to dismantle the US, can talk in complete sentences, doesn't believe the US is the root of all evil and wrong in the world and doesn't believe in their soul that 1/2 the country is deplorable, and it probably wouldn't even be close. |
Originally Posted by full of luv
(Post 3033418)
This election (IMO) really is coming down to who is the less caustic, irritating, and sanctimonious on a daily basis.
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Originally Posted by Web265
(Post 3033422)
Why does every presidential election in recent memory have to come down to a "lesser of two evils" vote? The system has got be be badly broken to give us this every four years.
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
(Post 3032508)
...for those of that didn't die from it.
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Originally Posted by profit
(Post 3033413)
This is wrong on almost every count. Your news source must be OANN.
Fauci:"Discussions [about strong mitigation tactics] were going on mostly among the medical people about what that would mean. The FIRST and ONLY time that Dr. Birx and I went in and formally made a recommendation to the President to actually have a quote ‘shutdown’ ... the President listened to the recommendation and went to the mitigation." "The next, second time that I went with Dr. Birx in to [see] the President and said 15 days are not enough, we need to go 30 days," Dr. Fauci continued, “the President went with the health recommendations and we extended it another 30 days." “The first and only time that I went in and said we should do mitigation strongly, the response was yes, we’ll do it,” Dr. Fauci reiterated. Time line follows (Thru Mar 21, 2020) December 31: China reports the discovery of the coronavirus to the World Health Organization. January 3: CDC Director Robert Redfield sent an email to the director of the Chinese CDC, George Gao, formally offering to send U.S. experts to China to investigate the coronavirus. January 5: CDC Director Redfield sent another email to the Chinese CDC Director, George Gao, formally offering to send U.S. experts to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak, January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus. January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus. January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, China. January 17: The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U.S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles. January 20: Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus. January 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response. January 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test. January 27: President Trump tweeted that he made an offer to President Xi Jinping to send experts to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak. January 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus. January 27: The White House Coronavirus Task Force started meeting to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President. January 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President. January 31: The Trump Administration:
February 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U.S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government. February 2: The CDC expanded enhanced entry screening to eight major airports across the nation. February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus. February 5: The Trump Administration and health officials briefed lawmakers on the Federal Government's coronavirus response efforts. February 6: The CDC began shipping CDC-Developed test kits for the 2019 Novel Coronavirus to U.S. and international labs. February 7: President Trump told reporters that the CDC is working with China on the coronavirus. February 9: The White House Coronavirus Task Force briefed governors from across the nation at the National Governors’ Association Meeting in Washington. February 11: The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) expanded a partnership with Janssen Research & Development to “expedite the development” of a coronavirus vaccine. February 12: The U.S. shipped test kits for the 2019 novel coronavirus to approximately 30 countries who lacked the necessary reagents and other materials. February 12: The CDC was prepared to travel to China but had yet to receive permission from the Chinese government. February 14: The CDC began working with five labs to conduct “community-based influenza surveillance” to study and detect the spread of coronavirus. February 18: HHS announced it would engage with Sanofi Pasteur in an effort to quickly develop a coronavirus vaccine and to develop treatment for coronavirus infections. February 22: A WHO team of international experts arrives in Wuhan, China. February 24: The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus. Febraury 25: HHS Secretary Azar testified before the Senate HELP committee on the Administration's coronavirus response efforts. February 26: President Trump discussed coronavirus containment efforts with Indian PM Modi and updated the press on his Administration’s containment efforts in the U.S. during his state visit to India. February 29: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allowed certified labs to develop and begin testing coronavirus testing kits while reviewing pending applications. February 29: The Trump Administration:
March 3: The White House announced President Trump donated his fourth quarter salary to fight the coronavirus. March 4: The Trump Administration announced the purchase of approximately 500 million N95 respirators over the next 18 months to respond to the outbreak of the novel coronavirus. March 4: Secretary Azar announced that HHS was transferring $35 million to the CDC to help state and local communities that have been impacted most by the coronavirus. March 6: President Trump signed an $8.3 billion bill to fight the coronavirus outbreak. The bill provides $7.76 billion to federal, state, & local agencies to combat the coronavirus and authorizes an additional $500 million in waivers for Medicare telehealth restrictions. March 9: President Trump called on Congress to pass a payroll tax cut over coronavirus. March 10: President Trump and VP Pence met with top health insurance companies and secured a commitment to waive co-pays for coronavirus testing. March 11: President Trump:
March 13: President Trump announced:
March 14: The Coronavirus Relief Bill passed the House of Representatives. March 14: The Trump Administration announced the European travel ban will extend to the UK and Ireland. March 15: President Trump held a phone call with over two dozen grocery store executives to discuss on-going demand for food and other supplies. March 15: HHS announced it is projected to have 1.9 million COVID-19 tests available in 2,000 labs this week. March 15: Google announced a partnership with the Trump Administration to develop a website dedicated to coronavirus education, prevention, & local resources. March 15: All 50 states were contacted through FEMA to coordinate “federally-supported, state-led efforts” to end coronavirus. March 16: President Trump:
March 16: Asst. Secretary for Health confirmed the availability of 1 million coronavirus tests, and projected 2 million tests available the next week and 5 million the following. March 17: President Trump announced:
March 17: President Trump met with tourism industry representatives along with industrial supply, retail, and wholesale representatives. March 17: Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin met with lawmakers to discuss stimulus measures to relieve the economic burden of coronavirus on certain industries, businesses, and American workers. March 17: Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue announced a partnership between USDA, Baylor University, McLane Global, and Pepsi Co. to provide one million meals per weak to rural children in response to widespread school closures. March 17: The Treasury Department:
March 18: President Trump signed the Families First Coronavirus Response Act, which provides free testing and paid sick leave for workers impacted by the coronavirus. March 18: President Trump announced:
March 18: President Trump spoke to:
March 19: The State Department issued a global level 4 health advisory, telling Americans to avoid all international travel due to coronavirus. March 19: President Trump directed FEMA to take the lead on the Federal Government’s coronavirus response & visited FEMA HQ with Vice President Pence for a video call with Governors. March 20: The U.S. and Mexico agree to mutually restrict nonessential cross-border traffic. March 20: Secretary Mnuchin announced at the direction of President Trump that tax day will be moved from April 15 to July 15 for all taxpayers and businesses. March 20: President Trump:
March 21: Vice President Pence announced to date over 195,000 Americans tested for coronavirus and have received their results March 21: The Trump Administration announced HHS placed an order for hundreds of millions of N95 masks through FEMA March 21: The FDA announced it had given emergency approval to a new coronavirus test that delivers results in hours, with an intended rollout of March 30 March 21: Adm. Giroir confirmed 10 million testing kits had been put into the commercial market from March 2 through March 14 |
The numbers from China are BS. The numbers from Europe are legit and the U.S. numbers are actually slightly better, but that is possibly because we got hit slightly later.
Trump's response is in line with other responses from around the world. Hindsight is 20/20. His ban on flights from China and then Europe were beneficial. There was some confusion and missed opportunities in February by the administration. The administration has been effective since March. Again, the sum total is basically in line with the performance of other countries. The media is negligent in that their motivation is to make the President look bad. Enabling China to spite the administration is foolish. The President is negligent in that his off the cuff comments can create confusion and impede focus. Additionally, using this crisis to denigrate political opponents is counterproductive. One of the roles of President is to promote unity to better address the circumstance. He's not doing that. Everybody in leadership can do better. I view the President as the primary responsibility to raise his game to unify us in a very challenging environment. If he works towards that, I would then see the media and democrat opponents as being responsible for putting partisanship aside and working with the administration to come to the best resolution. We are getting our ass kicked by the Chinese and our schoolyard sniping is going to look ridiculous in hindsight. |
Originally Posted by casual observer
(Post 3033482)
The numbers from China are BS. The numbers from Europe are legit and the U.S. numbers are actually slightly better, but that is possibly because we got hit slightly later.
Trump's response is in line with other responses from around the world. Hindsight is 20/20. His ban on flights from China and then Europe were beneficial. There was some confusion and missed opportunities in February by the administration. The administration has been effective since March. Again, the sum total is basically in line with the performance of other countries. The media is negligent in that their motivation is to make the President look bad. Enabling China to spite the administration is foolish. The President is negligent in that his off the cuff comments can create confusion and impede focus. Additionally, using this crisis to denigrate political opponents is counterproductive. One of the roles of President is to promote unity to better address the circumstance. He's not doing that. Everybody in leadership can do better. I view the President as the primary responsibility to raise his game to unify us in a very challenging environment. If he works towards that, I would then see the media and democrat opponents as being responsible for putting partisanship aside and working with the administration to come to the best resolution. We are getting our ass kicked by the Chinese and our schoolyard sniping is going to look ridiculous in hindsight. 10char |
That was a great copy and paste from the Trump/Pence re-election webpage. Word for word.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/t...e-coronavirus/ Meanwhile, it really didn't address what the previous poster claimed about "science" and "being ahead of science". Are you sure that's not cheeto dust on your lips? |
Trump's big mistake, and he is currently still in the process of making it, is the lack of antibody testing. Also, he could have restocked the national supply of medical equipment, depleted from the last flu outbreak, the previous administration dropped the ball on.
The science says, and will say that the lockdown prevented herd immunity which was 1-2 gens away from happening. The people making the, "follow the science" argument, are going to look really stupid when this is over. |
Originally Posted by profit
(Post 3033413)
This is wrong on almost every count. Your news source must be OANN.
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