B6 pilot passes Covid?
04-08-2020, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AYLflyer
Nobody is saying we are special. The way this is all being handled though is absolutely **** poor.
The baggers/checkers at my grocery store have been behind a 4x4 sheet of plexi-glass to keep them safer, and are not allowed to handle customers reusable bags and are provided with wipes and hand sanitizer for when they handle cash.
The airlines have been telling people to continue working without providing PPE, and if someone you worked with tests positive, to continue working unless you show symptoms. We have cockpit cleaning which is nice, but it's not a daily routine and numerous crews, techs, airport workers and 3rd party workers pass through it between flights. 1 of my last 4 flights had wipes onboard for cleaning. Social distancing is not a thing, hotels continue to put crews on the same floor for easier cleaning for their staff, and we continue to operate into and out of hot zones.
Like I said, I think there's going to be real legal repurcussions when this all ends. Not just our industry, but multiple. I'm no legal genius but I feel like me having an email that says I've been exposed to the virus and 'You can continue working until you develop symptoms' would be a field day for any lawyer.
The baggers/checkers at my grocery store have been behind a 4x4 sheet of plexi-glass to keep them safer, and are not allowed to handle customers reusable bags and are provided with wipes and hand sanitizer for when they handle cash.
The airlines have been telling people to continue working without providing PPE, and if someone you worked with tests positive, to continue working unless you show symptoms. We have cockpit cleaning which is nice, but it's not a daily routine and numerous crews, techs, airport workers and 3rd party workers pass through it between flights. 1 of my last 4 flights had wipes onboard for cleaning. Social distancing is not a thing, hotels continue to put crews on the same floor for easier cleaning for their staff, and we continue to operate into and out of hot zones.
Like I said, I think there's going to be real legal repurcussions when this all ends. Not just our industry, but multiple. I'm no legal genius but I feel like me having an email that says I've been exposed to the virus and 'You can continue working until you develop symptoms' would be a field day for any lawyer.
04-08-2020, 06:46 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence
Between VILs and bidding RSV there has been ample opportunity to avoid flying if you really don’t want to.
04-08-2020, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence
Between VILs and bidding RSV there has been ample opportunity to avoid flying if you really don’t want to.
04-08-2020, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AYLflyer
You have crewmembers literally dying in order to fly 3 people to a destination. Borderline insanity at this point.
But we can't all just stay home, expect to get paid and have jobs to come back to in the long-term.
But condolences about the guy who passed, may be the first US pilot I've heard of.
04-08-2020, 12:57 PM
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The ones who really have it bad are the medical workers at the front line. Insufficient protective gear and they're having to work with patients known or likely to have the virus. Then risk taking it home to their families. There's just no way to avoid it entirely short of staying in bed 24/7.
My stepdaughter is an HR manager at a frozen food plant about an hour from DFW, all their employees are getting 10% hazard pay and the ones who are "at risk" are allowed to use sick time to stay home.
My stepdaughter is an HR manager at a frozen food plant about an hour from DFW, all their employees are getting 10% hazard pay and the ones who are "at risk" are allowed to use sick time to stay home.
04-08-2020, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Nobody has to do it, I think every airline now will let you go on COVID leave for almost any reason (at-risk, family at-risk, no daycare, anal glaucoma, etc).
But we can't all just stay home, expect to get paid and have jobs to come back to in the long-term.
But condolences about the guy who passed, may be the first US pilot I've heard of.
But we can't all just stay home, expect to get paid and have jobs to come back to in the long-term.
But condolences about the guy who passed, may be the first US pilot I've heard of.
Are you sure? Or are you guessing? (You’re guessing. Don’t guess.)
[But we can't all just stay home, expect to get paid and have jobs to come back to in the long-term.]
When did this become a binary choice between fly or shut it down? No one should be unnecessarily put at risk because cleaning the aircraft and providing promised sanitizing equipment is not being done. “Operational Necessity” has a place, but its place is not in the airline world. Chartering medical workers and medical supplies with properly cleaned aircraft? Great idea! Right now B6 is still trying to figure out the cleaning and provisioning part.
[But condolences about the guy who passed, may be the first US pilot I've heard of.]
It took you awhile and you buried the lede, but you finally got around to saying something. Thank you.
04-08-2020, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil Laschio
What good is avoiding flying if you’re sitting SCR in a Crashpad in Kew Gardens? Yep, you’ll avoid flying alright. There won’t be any. I’m sure Cuomo would love a glimpse at Crashpad life.
04-08-2020, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Nobody has to do it, I think every airline now will let you go on COVID leave for almost any reason (at-risk, family at-risk, no daycare, anal glaucoma, etc).
But we can't all just stay home, expect to get paid and have jobs to come back to in the long-term.
But condolences about the guy who passed, may be the first US pilot I've heard of.
But we can't all just stay home, expect to get paid and have jobs to come back to in the long-term.
But condolences about the guy who passed, may be the first US pilot I've heard of.
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