Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Pilot Lounge > Hangar Talk > COVID19
AA gov aid to exceed its capitalization >

AA gov aid to exceed its capitalization

Search
Notices
COVID19 Pandemic Information and Reports

AA gov aid to exceed its capitalization

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-14-2020, 08:33 AM
  #1  
Perennial Reserve
Thread Starter
 
Excargodog's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 11,501
Default AA gov aid to exceed its capitalization

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN21V1VO

That - with their huge preexisting debt - is a huge hole to climb out of.

Does that make the flow programs worthless?
Excargodog is offline  
Old 04-14-2020, 09:08 AM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,656
Default

Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN21V1VO

That - with their huge preexisting debt - is a huge hole to climb out of.

Does that make the flow programs worthless?
Pretty much useless prior to that clearly, at least for a few years.
Cyio is offline  
Old 04-14-2020, 09:12 AM
  #3  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 894
Default

What does this have to do with the flow?
123494 is offline  
Old 04-14-2020, 09:13 AM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2019
Posts: 537
Default

Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN21V1VO

That - with their huge preexisting debt - is a huge hole to climb out of.

Does that make the flow programs worthless?
What does that have anything to do with the flow programs?

They had a ton of debt before this. Not sure what you're trying to say.
rld1k is offline  
Old 04-14-2020, 09:15 AM
  #5  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 963
Default

Originally Posted by rld1k View Post
What does that have anything to do with the flow programs?

They had a ton of debt before this. Not sure what you're trying to say.
LOL! Just another attempt to take a shot at flow. Sad really.
itsmytime is offline  
Old 04-14-2020, 09:20 AM
  #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 1,256
Default

deleted...

Last edited by senecacaptain; 04-14-2020 at 09:23 AM. Reason: double post
senecacaptain is offline  
Old 04-14-2020, 09:22 AM
  #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 1,256
Default

has nothing to do with flow. the only thing flow is directly impacted by is lack of hiring. which can be impacted by mainline furloughs.

now, if traffic counts do not return, I can see big AA saying sending half-empty 320s to OKC or ICT are not profitable, lets use our regional flights. rinse, repeat, nationwide.

some argument exists that this pandemic will further secure the regional airlines and the ULCC/LCC's. the only issue would be range, aka JFK to LAX stuff.

if Big-3/etc. do not hire for 3-5 years, or more, the regionals may become a final-stop career destination potentially. the new normal may be RJ Captain 100k a year, and travel benefits for the family = be happy clap your hands.

my opinion
senecacaptain is offline  
Old 04-14-2020, 09:26 AM
  #8  
Gets Weekends Off
 
bababouey's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 774
Default

Rjs provide no yield, that is why there are no stand alone rj operators.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
bababouey is offline  
Old 04-14-2020, 08:15 PM
  #9  
Gets Weekends Off
 
SoFloFlyer's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 2,235
Default

Originally Posted by bababouey View Post
Rjs provide no yield, that is why there are no stand alone rj operators.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Are RJs really not that profitable?
SoFloFlyer is offline  
Old 04-15-2020, 03:13 AM
  #10  
Gets Weekends Off
 
bababouey's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 774
Default

Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer View Post
Are RJs really not that profitable?
I really don't know, the current space only uses them to augment an operation, not carry it. RJ standalone carriers have been tried before, only to fail. I don't think they're a good business to be in, which is probably why Parker owns 3 of them.
bababouey is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Raptor
Cargo
10
05-06-2015 04:40 AM
Broncos
Pilot Health
1
02-16-2015 03:11 PM
glyde
Major
120
11-11-2011 02:31 PM
757Driver
Major
26
08-09-2011 05:50 AM
GasPasser
Money Talk
3
03-23-2009 05:16 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices