WhiskyWhisky

I honestly think we should, as a pilot group, pressure ALPA to file a lawsuit against China.to cover the cost of the CARES Act.

Otherwise, who pays the bill. Grandchildren's grandchildren?

https://nypost.com/2020/04/17/lawmak...r-coronavirus/

barabek

This is genious, absolutely brilliant. China is going to pay us trillions because they realize we are the victims. "Oh, poor Americans, they suffered so much. Nobody suffered so much. Especially the pilots. Their careers were interrupted, 401ks decimated. Nobody suffered as much as American pilots. They need help and reimbursement from China."
Dude, wake up! It's everywhere, not only in this country. USA has been one of the last countries in the norther hemisphere that got infected. Every country and industry is suffering, most of them more then you and I. We are the lucky ones and it is our game to lose. Wake up and look around, turn off Fox or whatever you're watching. The world is falling apart in front of your eyes, but you're trying to get China pay for the CARES act. Idiotic would be an understatement...

rickair7777

It's not that far fetched...

You don't actually need to get china to AGREE to pay...

They have gazillions in assets on US soil, much of which is not liquid and not portable.

So all you need to do is get a US court to hear the case, and a US jury to rule in your favor and then you can help yourselves to whatever PRC assets are available in our jurisdiction. Without running afoul of international conventions. You might even be able to go after assets in other countries which have legal alignment with the US.

There's precedent, the most obvious examples are the family of terrorism victims going after the assets of rogue regimes in the US and the western world.

If it's not ALPA, I'd just about guarantee *somebody* is going to go after offshore PRC assets... probably a lot of somebodies.

Downside for ALPA is that it could stir up a hornets nest, PRC could do something like ban ALPA members from flying into their country.

Although I suspect it's more likely that the USG will get PRC to agree to some sort of reparations paid to the US government for further distribution to US persons who were harmed. A deal like that would have to include legislation banning lawsuits against PRC over the issue.

This all assumes that PRC really screwed the pooch on containing this and communicating with other nations... it's starting to look that way, and that last part is really going to bite them.

Burt123

Yeah, this is gotta be some kind of a joke right? You really think China would agree to pay anything to the US? They’ve been officially accusing the US of developing this virus. China is not accepting blame in any of this and there’s already a growing list of multiple nations (US Allies) that aren’t siding with the US governments position targeting them. There’s no doubt that their government knows exactly the origin of this virus.

And in regards to “who pays the bill” of the CARES Act... Nobody. The funding for this is just more unbacked printed federal reserve notes.

TiredSoul

What is your degree in?
Liberal Arts?

rickair7777

See above, they don't have to agree to it.

Maybe they will make deals with governments, to prevent countless lawsuits against their copious global offshore assets.

They are potentially in real deep doo-doo with the rest of the world on this. Time will tell.

But I think it's a bad idea for ALPA to go down that road... we actually have to do business over there. Eventually.

Rightup

Theoretically possible, yes. In actuality, no. China is not some geopolitically irrelevant country like Venezuela. Any sort of significant retaliation against China could easily be put to rest should they choose. They are pretty much the world's pharmacy and could do something like block heparin or antibiotic shipments to the US, which Chinese economists have advocated doing before.

​​​​​​https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...pply-36tm2v2xp

ipdanno

“In what is your degree?” corrected the Liberal Arts major.

OpMidClimax

I'm no geopolitical expert but i don't believe China would ever do that. Honestly, this day and age everyone needs China. They are just so powerful, economically, military, and covertly. Shifting away from China manufacturing might, raw materials, and seems daunting to me. I think China knows exactly the have they are holding. Heck who is going to bail out Boeing Commercial?

As far as China's culpability? There is nothing to say the virus was manmade. The genetic code would be expected from nature. Are they responsible covering up initial news of the virus.. probably..

Reminds me Chernobyl, Fukushima, k129, etc. Where Government bodies try to lessen the truth as the truth is unimaginable and leaders are incompetent.

I digress..

atooraya

Yea... how’s that lawsuit against Saudi Arabia for 9/11 working out...