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Old 04-21-2020, 07:55 AM
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https://twitter.com/e_russell/status...902821899?s=20

https://www.iata.org/en/pressroom/pr/2020-04-21-01/

An IATA-commissioned survey of recent travelers found that:
  • 60% anticipate a return to travel within one to two months of containment of the COVID-19 pandemic but 40% indicate that they could wait six months or more
  • 69% indicated that they could delay a return to travel until their personal financial situation stabilizes
Early indications of this cautious return-to-travel behavior are seen in the domestic markets of China and Australia, where new coronavirus infection rates have fallen to very low levels:
https://skift.com/2020/04/21/jetblue...ines-recovery/


Hayes said he thinks a recovery will evolve and there are various scenarios, but the drive market, domestic flights, and international flights close to the U.S. could be the first to make comebacks.

There is ample pent-up demand for passengers to visit friends and family, Hayes said, adding that JetBlue needs to plan “conservatively” despite states like Georgia and Florida reopening businesses this week.

Hayes expects minimum number of flights for now; the airline is flying 15-20 percent of its schedule in April, and he believes it will do around the same for May and June.

Hayes said JetBlue will be ready for when passenger demand returns.

"There will be some great deals around when this is over,” Hayes said.
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Old 04-21-2020, 08:29 AM
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RV travel will be very popular.

China will be the one to watch right now. This article talks about the great deals being offered to encourage people to travel.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/c...nts/index.html

We need people to feel it’s safe to travel. There’s enough people out there that are willing to travel at the right price. Once they test the waters and prove that it’s safe to do so domestic travel should rebound.
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Not just safe but convenient also. I don’t feel unsafe, but I Drove the other day instead of buying the plane ticket. The only direct options for my destination were 8am and 8pm departures. Neither were more convenient than the 4-5 hour drive in a one way rental car.
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Post 9/11 I started driving rather than flying if I could drive it in 12 hours. More ppl will do that now. Seriously, sitting right next to someone for a few hours while this virus comes and goes for the next few years. Nope. Airlines are going to have to do some innovating.
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Post 9/11 I started driving rather than flying if I could drive it in 12 hours. More ppl will do that now. Seriously, sitting right next to someone for a few hours while this virus comes and goes for the next few years. Nope. Airlines are going to have to do some innovating.
Is that really any safer than stopping and using 3-4 public gas station restrooms and or fast food dives along the way?

Im sure the perception will be so for some, but it seems like it’s the illusion of prevention over reality.
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Im sure the perception will be so for some, but it seems like it’s the illusion of prevention over reality.
This is the unfortunate reality. I think we're (travel industry) pretty screwed for a while.

Anecdotal experience, but I was at a grocery store yesterday and most people I encountered were acting like zombies. It was bizarre. A few times I had to get around carts that were blocking my path, and when I politely said "Excuse me", each person looked at me like I had a 3 heads. Nobody verbally responded, and one of them didn't even move their cart, they just stared at me. If this is what it's like buying groceries, there is no way in hell that in a few weeks/months people will get on an airplane and sit next to a total stranger.
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Is that really any safer than stopping and using 3-4 public gas station restrooms and or fast food dives along the way?

Im sure the perception will be so for some, but it seems like it’s the illusion of prevention over reality.
It's also about control. If you drive you feel(and do to some extent) like you can control your contact with others. In an airplane you have none of that control. Imagine the guy next to you coughing right after takeoff on a 5 hour flight, and he keeps getting worse. It would be sheer panic on board. You (and everyone around) would demand to be moved, but where? Emergency landing?

Also has anyone asked the flight attendants how they feel about this whole COVID mess? I wonder how many are willing to back work locked in a tube with hundreds of strangers every day.
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It's also about control. If you drive you feel(and do to some extent) like you can control your contact with others. In an airplane you have none of that control. Imagine the guy next to you coughing right after takeoff on a 5 hour flight, and he keeps getting worse. It would be sheer panic on board. You (and everyone around) would demand to be moved, but where? Emergency landing?

Also has anyone asked the flight attendants how they feel about this whole COVID mess? I wonder how many are willing to back work locked in a tube with hundreds of strangers every day.
It’s an illusion of control. The guy hacking away may just have....a cough. But you’re sharing a public restroom, convenience area, gas pumps with who knows how many infected strangers and drive thru windows with workers who aren’t changing masks and gloves between customers.

I strongly suspect that the initial path back will involve continued enhanced cleanings, empty middle seats between strangers and probably temperature checks somewhere before the jet bridge to help assuage angst.

A 5 hour plane ride is one helluva long car ride with a lot of gas/food stops along the way.

The FA’s probably won’t like it, but they’ll probably like that paycheck better than $1200 and maybe some unemployment. And again, are they really in any more danger in that tube who’s air is getting completely turned over once every few minutes with Hepa filters than walking through the terminal, hotel lobby or in their hotel room? Or going to the grocery store or Home Depot for that matter?
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