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rickair7777 05-28-2020 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by aeroengineer (Post 3065606)
Roger that. What I'm hearing is they're now really looking hard at the justification post COVID. At least in my little corner of the world.


They do that every single fiscal year as the political budget crisis plays out. Plenty of travel gets approved, few mil personnel would even submit requests for frivolous travel anyway, the boss knows that when he sees it. I don't think this will be much different. Given discretion, not too many CO's are going to tie their organization's hands based on vague and non-quantifiable COVID risks.

senecacaptain 05-28-2020 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 3065642)
If you are saying that the airlines are directed to offer tickets to the U.S. government at a loss you are incorrect. For the majority of cases Gov/Mil tickets are more expensive then what the average person can find online. They are more profitable for the airline than your standard ticket, but not as profitable as your average Neiman Marcus business traveler.....obviously (lol, I knew this debate would pop up as soon as I posted my original comment. This board is so predictable).

not saying "directed to take them at a loss"

I am saying most govt tickets are not profit centers for the airlines.

bababouey 05-28-2020 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by senecacaptain (Post 3065685)
this has not been my experience. not using E-2 travel at least

don't we still have to buy refundable tickets? I don't f with dts auths so I really don't know, I just see what hits my gtc and it's usually a lot.

RhinoPherret 05-29-2020 01:29 AM

As (when) this pandemic starts to ease, it is very obvious with all the various jurisdictions (cities, counties, states, Feds, etc.) enforcing their own endemic wide variety of restrictions and politicians putting their fingers in the pie, the travel sector rebound is going to be a very disorganized slow paced process. Counting stats on a daily or weekly basis such as TSA’s, as an example, is way off base and presents misleading volatile data for a micro time frame snapshot. Just saying that trying to build short or long term projections off of this type of data on a daily or weekly basis is pointless based on the big picture. Again, check the TSA data quarterly instead over the next 12 months and then you might start to get some useful numbers to correlate against.

senecacaptain 05-29-2020 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by RhinoPherret (Post 3066238)
As (when) this pandemic starts to ease, it is very obvious with all the various jurisdictions (cities, counties, states, Feds, etc.) enforcing their own endemic wide variety of restrictions and politicians putting their fingers in the pie, the travel sector rebound is going to be a very disorganized slow paced process. Counting stats on a daily or weekly basis such as TSA’s, as an example, is way off base and presents misleading volatile data for a micro time frame snapshot. Just saying that trying to build short or long term projections off of this type of data on a daily or weekly basis is pointless based on the big picture. Again, check the TSA data quarterly instead over the next 12 months and then you might start to get some useful numbers to correlate against.

thanks for the positive energy.

above 300k for 5/28

RhinoPherret 05-29-2020 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by senecacaptain (Post 3066288)
thanks for the positive energy.

above 300k for 5/28

Sorry if I burst your balloon. Just blow up another one and you are good to go. ;)

SierraAlpha 05-29-2020 07:29 AM

Rhino,

I think we all realize that things aren’t all that great...but having a bit of optimism and a positive outlook does no harm. If you rely all your life decisions in it, sure that’s a problem. But tracking those numbers and making a comment about them is still a lot better than sitting behind the screen and anticipating the one million ways life will come to an end.

Europe is opening come Monday!

RhinoPherret 05-29-2020 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by SierraAlpha (Post 3066378)
Rhino,

I think we all realize that things aren’t all that great...but having a bit of optimism and a positive outlook does no harm. If you rely all your life decisions in it, sure that’s a problem. But tracking those numbers and making a comment about them is still a lot better than sitting behind the screen and anticipating the one million ways life will come to an end.

Europe is opening come Monday!

I hear ya. Not against optimism. But optimism mixed with a decent dose of reality makes a better mix, to me. I just won't sit in this thread as some others seem to do on a consistent basis and blow smoke up my own or others rear ends. To much BS in all areas has already caused enough harm and mixed reactions overall during this pandemic. Just not playing the wish upon a star routine.

kingairfun 05-29-2020 10:54 AM

Don't think anyone is painting too rosy of a picture...

How about this.... even something like a TSA chart gives a furloughed guy an indication of how close the aviation sector is to 2019 levels.. It can help a furloughee judge when he/she might be called back.
We're barely out of phase 1 or 2 in just about every State. And holding roughly 12-13%...… Maybe we get to 30-40% by the time lockdowns are really eased. Or 50% by Oct. 1st.. Data gives us a starting point.

LoneStar32 05-29-2020 01:13 PM

Some potentially good news, Vegas properties are seeing a higher demand than anticipated after reopening:

https://twitter.com/bailey_schulz/st...767142400?s=20


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