Lockdown and Civil Unrest Discussion
05-25-2020, 10:54 AM
#711
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Originally Posted by Anson Harris
His response to the final question about what he says to those who say he's not an epidemiologist was very good. It's almost as if modern society (or a large portion thereof) is unable to cope with any situations that do not lend themselves to a binary choice. The media as a whole illustrates this constantly. There are only two sides to any issue, and one side must win. This winner-take-all philosophy is damaging US government and politics as well.
Many on this board have worked in scientific/technical fields and understand the disagreement and debate that occurs constantly among professionals. It's not a bad thing and at its best results in superior outcomes.
There's almost no choice or rule in this life that can be absolute. We constantly debate trade offs with respect to safety, livelihood, and freedom. The lockdown went so terribly wrong by failing to realize that the more consequential the decision is, the more certain it must be. Even when faced with evidence that seriously questions it, the response is flippant: "the response to a pandemic will always seem like an overreaction." As if laying waste to the world's economy is just a minor overreach you can correct later. Blackstone's ratio is a more appropriate philosophy, which is a concept I'm sure this judge understands.
Many on this board have worked in scientific/technical fields and understand the disagreement and debate that occurs constantly among professionals. It's not a bad thing and at its best results in superior outcomes.
There's almost no choice or rule in this life that can be absolute. We constantly debate trade offs with respect to safety, livelihood, and freedom. The lockdown went so terribly wrong by failing to realize that the more consequential the decision is, the more certain it must be. Even when faced with evidence that seriously questions it, the response is flippant: "the response to a pandemic will always seem like an overreaction." As if laying waste to the world's economy is just a minor overreach you can correct later. Blackstone's ratio is a more appropriate philosophy, which is a concept I'm sure this judge understands.
05-29-2020, 11:23 AM
#712
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
So to make sure I understand this, you're saying mass testing of ALL 330 million people in January/February before we had a single known death (first week of March) from Covid? That is entirely unrealistic, nothing more than a left wing media talking point at this stage (NO country in the world tested anything close to 100% of its population). Not to mention, do you really think 330 million will consent to testing? Even when we do open up do you really think 330 million people will consent to the government doing contact tracing testing?
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05-29-2020, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pipe
A 20% sample size gives you a 3% margin of error. 2% sample size gives a 10% margin of error. Never let science or math get in the way of emotional ranting.
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05-29-2020, 07:43 PM
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Here's an article about how COVID19 may actually be as much of a vascular disease as a respiratory disease. They're theorizing the virus infects ACE2 receptors in your lungs, then works it's way into the ACE2 receptors in your blood. This would explain a lot of the weird symptoms.
https://elemental.medium.com/coronav...g-2c4032481ab2
The good news is that there are already off-the-shelf drugs to help prevent vascular endothelial degradation that may be more effective than ventilators.
https://elemental.medium.com/coronav...g-2c4032481ab2
The good news is that there are already off-the-shelf drugs to help prevent vascular endothelial degradation that may be more effective than ventilators.
05-29-2020, 09:08 PM
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the various Flight Attendant union twitter feeds seem pro-protest. take a look. don.t we have enough aviation industry concerns without tying “union spokespersons” into the protest stuff ? aviation nexus = ???
05-30-2020, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Vincent Chase
Pipe is an appropriate name. It's what you're smoking, no? How do you come up with those numbers? I learned 69% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
By the the way, it's "Waiting on Godot"
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05-30-2020, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by pipe
OK Vince, you're right. I made it all up and statistical probabilities are not provable.
By the the way, it's "Waiting on Godot"
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By the the way, it's "Waiting on Godot"
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05-30-2020, 11:59 AM
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And just like that the coronavirus magically went away in MSP
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05-30-2020, 12:36 PM
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Speaking of civil and criminal unrest....seems these protestors, rioters and thugs aren’t staying aware of the current social distancing policies in effect. 6 feet apart with a mask and gloves while you burn down you city and steal and loot.
05-30-2020, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by pipe
A 20% sample size gives you a 3% margin of error. 2% sample size gives a 10% margin of error. Never let science or math get in the way of emotional ranting.
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