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Old 05-09-2020, 06:58 PM
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I think the x factor in this is the massive job losses. My brother and cousins are now jobless so they won't be doing any leisure travel in the near future, and they were good for an international vacation per year. Then there are those that are on edge about losing their jobs, with kids, mortgage, who are in full on save mode now.
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Old 05-09-2020, 07:01 PM
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It's going to be a very slow recovery.

Luckily the adults will be in charge starting in January.
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Old 05-09-2020, 07:10 PM
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It's going to be a very slow recovery.

Luckily the adults will be in charge starting in January.

Biden? LOL yeah ok. The guys got dementia and has never been a leader, always a follower.
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Old 05-09-2020, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by geosync View Post
I think the x factor in this is the massive job losses. My brother and cousins are now jobless so they won't be doing any leisure travel in the near future, and they were good for an international vacation per year. Then there are those that are on edge about losing their jobs, with kids, mortgage, who are in full on save mode now.
This is exactly it. The virus can disappear tomorrow but the damage has already been done. I had trips myself to take that I will no longer be able to afford/take. Not from fear of Covid, but from a negative credit card balance.

The poop is already in the fan.
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Old 05-09-2020, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by iPilot6 View Post
Biden is on his way down mentally.... but Trump is already at alomost rock bottom in his cognitive abilities.

Even on Biden's WORST day, one of his turds is more mentally alert than Trump.

You're clealy not familiar with what this DEEP recession and double-digit unemplyment are going to effect the election. But you'll see. The excuses will be funny.
The media are attacking the current administration’s decision on attempting to reopen the country too soon AND attacking their decision to keep it shutdown using the rapid increase in unemployment numbers... they’ve failed three times already with BS and distracting the administration from trying to do anything productive over the full term. Now they’ll be using this pandemic, while holding American families hostage, for one final rally in attempt to sway the polling numbers and rid them from office. It still won’t work.
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Old 05-09-2020, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by iPilot6 View Post
Biden is on his way down mentally.... but Trump is already at alomost rock bottom in his cognitive abilities.

Even on Biden's WORST day, one of his turds is more mentally alert than Trump.

You're clealy not familiar with what this DEEP recession and double-digit unemplyment are going to effect the election. But you'll see. The excuses will be funny.
I think most are intelligent enough to see who is trying to open things up and get people back to work, and who is trying to prolong the shutdown and economic destruction.
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Old 05-09-2020, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Burt123 View Post
The media are attacking the current administration’s decision on attempting to reopen the country too soon AND attacking their decision to keep it shutdown using the rapid increase in unemployment numbers... they’ve failed three times already with BS and distracting the administration from trying to do anything productive over the full term. Now they’ll be using this pandemic, while holding American families hostage, for one final rally in attempt to sway the polling numbers and rid them from office. It still won’t work.
Yes... poor Trump. Always the victim. The persecution complex of our current president and his supporters never ceases to amaze me. Maybe it’s time for a little less finger pointing and a little more self reflection.
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Old 05-09-2020, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by iPilot6 View Post
Biden is on his way down mentally.... but Trump is already at alomost rock bottom in his cognitive abilities.

Even on Biden's WORST day, one of his turds is more mentally alert than Trump.

You're clealy not familiar with what this DEEP recession and double-digit unemplyment are going to effect the election. But you'll see. The excuses will be funny.
I see. And you think Biden is the one to get the economy back? Newsflash, the thing Trump does good is prop up the economy. You want jobs backs and the economy flourishing and your retirement 401Ks to shoot back up? It’s gonna be Trump. Almost all the Trump bashing is on liberal social justice issues and stuff he writes on Twitter and I frankly don’t care for those.
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Old 05-09-2020, 09:22 PM
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I see. And you think Biden is the one to get the economy back? Newsflash, the thing Trump does good is prop up the economy. You want jobs backs and the economy flourishing and your retirement 401Ks to shoot back up? It’s gonna be Trump. Almost all the Trump bashing is on liberal social justice issues and stuff he writes on Twitter and I frankly don’t care for those.
Here’s the thing... the economy and the virus are inextricably tied at this point. In order to have a strong economic recovery, we are going to need a clear and effective plan of how we move forward while not further dividing the country. This is more about restoring consumer confidence at this point than it is about simply opening businesses. You can’t just say “open her up!” and expect everything to go back to normal. Putting out clear and consistent information and unifying the country aren’t exactly Trump’s strong suits. Maybe he’ll turn the corner here and become the great unifier that can lead us out of this but let’s just say I’m not holding my breath.
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Old 05-09-2020, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BKbigfish View Post
Here’s the thing... the economy and the virus are inextricably tied at this point. In order to have a strong economic recovery, we are going to need a clear and effective plan of how we move forward while not further dividing the country. This is more about restoring consumer confidence at this point than it is about simply opening businesses. You can’t just say “open her up!” and expect everything to go back to normal. Putting out clear and consistent information and unifying the country aren’t exactly Trump’s strong suits. Maybe he’ll turn the corner here and become the great unifier that can lead us out of this but let’s just say I’m not holding my breath.
Trump said he’d open states, the left yelled tyranny, king, and 10th amendment. Fine. Now rely on your own Governors to open up your state.

“Restoring consumer confidence.”

Consumer confidence should never have been lost in the first place. 98+% of Americans know (or should know) if they get infected, they’re gonna still live. It’s the ones in that 1-2% that are dying with multiple pre-existing conditions and ones who are old (70+). And yes there have been people under 50 dying from Covid but they are very rare. The way this country has reacted, is like if this was some bubonic plague that has a 90% infection rate and a 60% fatality rate. If that was the case, then a full shut down was warranted. But this Covid is not. 1/3 of all deaths from covid in this country are in nursing home and their workers. And even though African Americans make up 15% overall population, they represent 60% of all Covid fatalities in this country. Yet, the entire damn country is in fear and panic mode. Protect the most vulnerable, let them stay home and quarantined, and let the rest of us get on with our lives.

The bottom line is EVERY single day, CNN and the types play a constant 24 hr coverage of Covid with EVERY single story being doomsday type. Everyday, a new thing to fear. A new statistic. They said when 3,000 died that as many as 9/11 are dead. Then it was as many as Vietnam war are dead. Throwing out useless irrelevant metrics to scare people . It’s to create shock and awe, to turn people against Trump. It’s literally the definition of propaganda. And it rolls everyday, unchecked.

Vaccine. I don’t think we’ll see it. We’ve never had a vaccine for SARS or any virus that spread from China, and to be fair they went away quickly so there was no need. Now we’re rushing at a crazy speed with human trials to get a vaccine for this. God knows what long term unknown consequences we could have from a vaccine that we say works. Picture the opening intro scene of “I am Legend”
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