Partial Vaccine May Be Available Now
05-11-2020, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It's starting to look more likely that the Rubella component of the MMR vaccine has a very high correlation to low severity in COVID cases. The other components may help as well. This hypothesis, made by two individuals, has been discussed here before but now has preliminary verification by heavy-hitter research organizations.
Hasn't hit big mainstream media yet, but these sources appear reputable:
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-r...anization.html
https://kdwn.com/2020/04/24/mmr-vacc...-for-covid-19/
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....10.20053207v1
And in 2014 researchers concluded that the measles vaccine protected against SARS (aka COVID-01).
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...42682214000051
Verification of this, and ramping up production can be accomplished more quickly than certifying a new vaccine... and much of the population is already vaccinated anyway.
If this pans out, it will become the definitive case study of "Better to be Lucky than Good".
Hasn't hit big mainstream media yet, but these sources appear reputable:
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-r...anization.html
https://kdwn.com/2020/04/24/mmr-vacc...-for-covid-19/
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....10.20053207v1
And in 2014 researchers concluded that the measles vaccine protected against SARS (aka COVID-01).
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...42682214000051
Verification of this, and ramping up production can be accomplished more quickly than certifying a new vaccine... and much of the population is already vaccinated anyway.
If this pans out, it will become the definitive case study of "Better to be Lucky than Good".
05-11-2020, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by WaterRooster
I think the real question is if anyone is going to really study it or is it more profitable for the Pharma companies to make a new vaccine? The real research has been done by a Statistician and a Veterinarian backed up with a little research from Cambridge. That's probably scaring off everyone!
The people who make the MMR vaccine would probably get behind further analysis.
Also this does not look like it would replace a COVID vax, just that it could reduce severity and deaths.
05-11-2020, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It's easy to validate or refute the statistics.
The people who make the MMR vaccine would probably get behind further analysis.
Also this does not look like it would replace a COVID vax, just that it could reduce severity and deaths.
The people who make the MMR vaccine would probably get behind further analysis.
Also this does not look like it would replace a COVID vax, just that it could reduce severity and deaths.
05-11-2020, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
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Also this does not look like it would replace a COVID vax, just that it could reduce severity and deaths.
Also this does not look like it would replace a COVID vax, just that it could reduce severity and deaths.
05-11-2020, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It's easy to validate or refute the statistics.
The people who make the MMR vaccine would probably get behind further analysis.
Also this does not look like it would replace a COVID vax, just that it could reduce severity and deaths.
The people who make the MMR vaccine would probably get behind further analysis.
Also this does not look like it would replace a COVID vax, just that it could reduce severity and deaths.
05-11-2020, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
The vaccine situation with Covid is going to be another political crisis, because it's probably only going to be available in limited quantities, and extremely expensive.
$5K/dose * 330M people in the US = $1.65T
We're already into it for more than that.
05-11-2020, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Even if it costs thousands per dose, the fed will pony up. Cheaper than indefinite economic collapse.
$5K/dose * 330M people in the US = $1.65T
We're already into it for more than that.
$5K/dose * 330M people in the US = $1.65T
We're already into it for more than that.
05-11-2020, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Extenda
why would it end up costing more than something like the flu vaccine?
05-12-2020, 05:58 AM
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Moderna has formally started phase 2 studies of their vaccine. This is a modified phase 2 study.
Usually phase 2 studies measure safety, along with some efficacy and is split into two seperate studies. Instead special exemption was approved and phase 2 a and 2 b studies along with large scales phase 3 studies will be grouped together. This is unprecedented but needed ofcourse. Fingers crossed.
Pfizer has begun phase 1 in human trials this week as well of their innovative vaccine.
Fingers crossed.
Usually phase 2 studies measure safety, along with some efficacy and is split into two seperate studies. Instead special exemption was approved and phase 2 a and 2 b studies along with large scales phase 3 studies will be grouped together. This is unprecedented but needed ofcourse. Fingers crossed.
Pfizer has begun phase 1 in human trials this week as well of their innovative vaccine.
Fingers crossed.
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