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Old 06-29-2020, 07:52 PM   #151  
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How detached from reality do you have to be to still be on the "it's just the flu" train?
3 months. 125k+ dead. NYC was putting the bodies in mass graves at its peak. Texas and Florida are on deck.

And you're crackin' jokes about a dust storm. You're a funny guy.
“Reality” doesn’t come from the black box in your living room. If you haven’t figured that out yet then you’re actually part of the real problem we’re all facing in this country.
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“Reality” doesn’t come from the black box in your living room. If you haven’t figured that out yet then you’re actually part of the real problem we’re all facing in this country.
That's your problem. A lack of imagination and empathy. There's no virus until it hits someone you know. And by then, it's too late.
How selfish of you.
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:40 AM   #153  
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I know somebody who recently tested positive for COVID, late 30s, smoker, overweight but otherwise reasonable health.

Two bouts of diarrhea on one day and a small leg rash for a couple weeks were the only symptoms - no fever, cough, shortness of breath, anosmia, etc. Docs aren’t sure if those symptoms were actually from COVID and say they might have been an asymptomatic carrier.

Does that mean some people don’t have bad outcomes from this? Ot course not, especially in the 75+ demographic.

...but it ain’t a scythe across the entirety of the population, either...
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:00 AM   #154  
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How detached from reality do you have to be to still be on the "it's just the flu" train?
3 months. 125k+ dead. NYC was putting the bodies in mass graves at its peak. Texas and Florida are on deck.

And you're crackin' jokes about a dust storm. You're a funny guy.
They have been doing this for every unclaimed body way before the virus. Stop being so effin dramatic. Go join a drama club or something. 😉
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Old 06-30-2020, 04:14 AM   #155  
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They have been doing this for every unclaimed body way before the virus. Stop being so effin dramatic. Go join a drama club or something. 😉
Roughly 40k bodies go unclaimed in the US each year according to several sources I found, but this is one of them:
Thousands Of Bodies Go Unclaimed Annually In the U.S. | Connecticut Health Investigative Team
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Old 06-30-2020, 05:13 AM   #156  
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They have been doing this for every unclaimed body way before the virus. Stop being so effin dramatic. Go join a drama club or something. 😉
Correct.

Hart Island Cemetery, Hart Island, New York

New York City has been burying unclaimed bodies at Hart Cemetary since the Civil War. There are over 1,000,000 people buried there.

Statistics with context are important.
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Old 06-30-2020, 05:25 AM   #157  
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Hart Island Cemetery, Hart Island, New York

New York City has been burying unclaimed bodies at Hart Cemetary since the Civil War. There are over 1,000,000 people buried there.

Statistics with context are important.
They were using refrigerator trucks at most of the hospitals for morgue overflow in NYC though.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/n...rk-bodies.html
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A bit of a tangent here. If you're trying to avoid politicizing this, you might want to reconsider statements like "adamantly red states." Labeling states as red or blue is worthless, except to political analysts who care about the next election results. It's just another way that our political class divides us.

Using the 2016 presidential election results, there's no state that is uniformly one color or another.​​​ Politically speaking, there are many states that will reliably pledge their electors to one party, but this hardly comes close to characterizing all of the people in the state. Think about the percentages applied to a room of 10 people.
  • Hawaii is the "bluest" with 6 Hillary voters, 3 Trump voters, and 1 other voter
  • Wyoming is the "reddest" with 7 Trump voters, 2 Hillary voters, and 1 other voter.
  • There are 13 "red" states that can muster 7 out of ten voters, but in the 37 other states it's 6 or less.
  • In 28 states, the winner can only muster 5 out of 10 voters.
FL and AZ are 5-5, and TX is 5-4.

Perhaps if we realize that neither side is going away, we can come up with better solutions.

The only exception is DC. 9 out of 10 voted for Hillary, and the last guy can't make up his mind. They're hopeless, but I think we all knew that.
I think you missed the point. The GOP is undeniably less in favor of lockdowns, yet even they're locking stuff down. How do you see us getting out of this? Serious question. Not what you think "should" happen, but what do you think "will" happen? What actions do you think will help/hurt that outcome?

Also, New England largely has the virus under control and its graphs resemble Europe's, which also has the virus under control. So don't tell me it can't be done. If you have a C- halfway through the semester that doesn't mean you just stop showing up and end with a solid F, but it does mean you're going to have to work harder for a B than the student who kept an A all semester.
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New England and Europe remained “locked down” FAR longer than the states that began reopening in late April/early May.

As those regions reopen to where the sunbelt states were 2-3 weeks ago, it will be interesting to see if similar increases in positives occur.

If California is any guide for them...I’d say that’s a very real possibility.
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New England and Europe remained “locked down” FAR longer than the states that began reopening in late April/early May.

As those regions reopen to where the sunbelt states were 2-3 weeks ago, it will be interesting to see if similar increases in positives occur.

If California is any guide for them...I’d say that’s a very real possibility.
I live in New England and my state has been doing just fine in Phase 2 for about a month now, and it's moving to Phase 3. Just about everything has been open with restrictions. Businesses surely weren't able to maximize profit, but everything functioned (gyms, restaurants, churches, etc) and now we're relaxing restrictions even more. It's really just using performance instruments to make adjustments instead of chasing the needles full deflection to full deflection.

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