We need a plan B for no vaccine.
06-30-2020, 10:04 AM
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The United States has the virus under control. Deaths are down, ICU occupancy has increased less than 5% in a month. Our fatality curve looks very similar to other countries.
Our currently policy is to test far more than any other country and to test otherwise younger and healthy people that weren't tested in the past. Fauci will fabricate the pandemic indefinitely until he is forced to stop.
Our currently policy is to test far more than any other country and to test otherwise younger and healthy people that weren't tested in the past. Fauci will fabricate the pandemic indefinitely until he is forced to stop.
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06-30-2020, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Duffman
I think you missed the point. The GOP is undeniably less in favor of lockdowns, yet even they're locking stuff down. How do you see us getting out of this? Serious question. Not what you think "should" happen, but what do you think "will" happen? What actions do you think will help/hurt that outcome?
Also, New England largely has the virus under control and its graphs resemble Europe's, which also has the virus under control. So don't tell me it can't be done. If you have a C- halfway through the semester that doesn't mean you just stop showing up and end with a solid F, but it does mean you're going to have to work harder for a B than the student who kept an A all semester.
Also, New England largely has the virus under control and its graphs resemble Europe's, which also has the virus under control. So don't tell me it can't be done. If you have a C- halfway through the semester that doesn't mean you just stop showing up and end with a solid F, but it does mean you're going to have to work harder for a B than the student who kept an A all semester.
06-30-2020, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
New England got completely ravaged by the virus, that is why it is slowing down there.
The Texas farce. Used as a pillar to many other states passing mandatory mask wear ordinances, and doing other silly things to liberties. Buttressed the MSM's cries of mu second wave. It was all a lie. You've been fed lies. Late last week the leaders of the 4 major medical hospital groups in Texas had to hold a press conference to ally the fanaticism that Texas was out of hospital beds. Dr. Marc Boom, Texas Methodist Hospital, one of the 4, said "quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now.”
Here's the real data from TMC, one of the larger groups in Houston.
TMC hasn't even gotten to phase 2 or Phase 3 yet WRT to ICU only beds. Those are an additional 877 beds with further ability to add another 1000.
Note that the COVID 19 patients occupy only 460 ICU beds. 1294 are occupied by other types of patients. so about 1/3 of the ICU bed usage in the TMC hospital system are china flu patients. Hardly cause for alarm.
TMC hospitals have over 3000 beds available to date. Not an emergency situation whatsoever. These numbers are consistent with their prior occupancy a year ago.
I posted earlier in another thread, that the majority of the occupied beds in hospitals around the country are due to those elective and non-emergency surgeries postponed for almost 4 months. As you can see from TMCs situation in Houston they are nowhere near running out of bed space. Also people get well and move out of hospital and another patient moves in. This isn't static. Pay note to the COVID-19 beds.
Second wave? No. Hardly. More like a second attempt to get us to by into the farce.
We don't need a vaccine for this thing. Its over. Done. Mask on/off, your choice, but let's get on with life.
06-30-2020, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Phins2right
No. some gov'ners shipped infected flu patients into nursing homes. The outcome was predictable.
The Texas farce. Used as a pillar to many other states passing mandatory mask wear ordinances, and doing other silly things to liberties. Buttressed the MSM's cries of mu second wave. It was all a lie. You've been fed lies. Late last week the leaders of the 4 major medical hospital groups in Texas had to hold a press conference to ally the fanaticism that Texas was out of hospital beds. Dr. Marc Boom, Texas Methodist Hospital, one of the 4, said "quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now.”
Here's the real data from TMC, one of the larger groups in Houston.
TMC hasn't even gotten to phase 2 or Phase 3 yet WRT to ICU only beds. Those are an additional 877 beds with further ability to add another 1000.
Note that the COVID 19 patients occupy only 460 ICU beds. 1294 are occupied by other types of patients. so about 1/3 of the ICU bed usage in the TMC hospital system are china flu patients. Hardly cause for alarm.
TMC hospitals have over 3000 beds available to date. Not an emergency situation whatsoever. These numbers are consistent with their prior occupancy a year ago.
I posted earlier in another thread, that the majority of the occupied beds in hospitals around the country are due to those elective and non-emergency surgeries postponed for almost 4 months. As you can see from TMCs situation in Houston they are nowhere near running out of bed space. Also people get well and move out of hospital and another patient moves in. This isn't static. Pay note to the COVID-19 beds.
Second wave? No. Hardly. More like a second attempt to get us to by into the farce.
We don't need a vaccine for this thing. Its over. Done. Mask on/off, your choice, but let's get on with life.
The Texas farce. Used as a pillar to many other states passing mandatory mask wear ordinances, and doing other silly things to liberties. Buttressed the MSM's cries of mu second wave. It was all a lie. You've been fed lies. Late last week the leaders of the 4 major medical hospital groups in Texas had to hold a press conference to ally the fanaticism that Texas was out of hospital beds. Dr. Marc Boom, Texas Methodist Hospital, one of the 4, said "quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now.”
Here's the real data from TMC, one of the larger groups in Houston.
TMC hasn't even gotten to phase 2 or Phase 3 yet WRT to ICU only beds. Those are an additional 877 beds with further ability to add another 1000.
Note that the COVID 19 patients occupy only 460 ICU beds. 1294 are occupied by other types of patients. so about 1/3 of the ICU bed usage in the TMC hospital system are china flu patients. Hardly cause for alarm.
TMC hospitals have over 3000 beds available to date. Not an emergency situation whatsoever. These numbers are consistent with their prior occupancy a year ago.
I posted earlier in another thread, that the majority of the occupied beds in hospitals around the country are due to those elective and non-emergency surgeries postponed for almost 4 months. As you can see from TMCs situation in Houston they are nowhere near running out of bed space. Also people get well and move out of hospital and another patient moves in. This isn't static. Pay note to the COVID-19 beds.
Second wave? No. Hardly. More like a second attempt to get us to by into the farce.
We don't need a vaccine for this thing. Its over. Done. Mask on/off, your choice, but let's get on with life.
YO! did you watch C-SPAN today? All the top public health officials giving sworn testimony that we have a serious problem.
06-30-2020, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails12
YO! did you watch C-SPAN today? All the top public health officials giving sworn testimony that we have a serious problem.
Refute the Texas data please. Don't deflect.
06-30-2020, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Phins2right
Fauci? Yeah, he also said there is another swine flu brewing in China. Whatever.
Refute the Texas data please. Don't deflect.
Refute the Texas data please. Don't deflect.
CSPAN BRO!!! GET SOME!!!
06-30-2020, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by WutFace
That's your problem. A lack of imagination and empathy. There's no virus until it hits someone you know. And by then, it's too late.
How selfish of you.
How selfish of you.
06-30-2020, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Burt123
I know an entire family that has tested positive for COVID and you know what cured them in less than 36 hours? Hydroxychloroquine. The same drug your black box in the living room was spewing BS about and fighting against it as part of their agenda. The numbers are 100 percent falsified to cause terror within the public and push the agenda and if you choose to believe it due to lack of critical thinking, then again you’re part of the problem why we’re all suffering. Explain to me why the CDC published numbers for influenza are extremely dramatically low this year compared to the last 10 years. Coincidence? 100% effective flu vax all of the sudden? Influenza just disappeared? I think not.
Black box, agenda, on and on with the hydroxywhateveritscalled, flu conspiracies, yada yada
C-SPAN, put that in your black box
06-30-2020, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Burt123
I know an entire family that has tested positive for COVID and you know what cured them in less than 36 hours? Hydroxychloroquine. The same drug your black box in the living room was spewing BS about and fighting against it as part of their agenda. The numbers are 100 percent falsified to cause terror within the public and push the agenda and if you choose to believe it due to lack of critical thinking, then again you’re part of the problem why we’re all suffering. Explain to me why the CDC published numbers for influenza are extremely dramatically low this year compared to the last 10 years. Coincidence? 100% effective flu vax all of the sudden? Influenza just disappeared? I think not.
You mean the drug that failed every double blind study in every country in the world?
06-30-2020, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Warrior
Haven’t read much of the last couple pages, but you’re not going to win an argument by posting a link to CNN.
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