We need a plan B for no vaccine.
10-29-2020, 07:18 AM
#501
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Never a good sign when a government commission - any government’s commission - is trying to lower expectations. It implies they oversold the idea to begin with
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...175-9/fulltext
some excerpts:
Even so, it is at least a frank admission of the problems and uncertainties a vaccine cure faces. And a lot of people need to hear that.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...175-9/fulltext
some excerpts:
However, we do not know that we will ever have a vaccine at all. It is important to guard against complacency and over-optimism. The first generation of vaccines is likely to be imperfect, and we should be prepared that they might not prevent infection but rather reduce symptoms, and, even then, might not work for everyone or for long.
Our strategy has been to build a diverse portfolio across different formats to give the UK the greatest chance of providing a safe and effective vaccine, recognising that many, and possibly all, of these vaccines could fail
Our strategy has been to build a diverse portfolio across different formats to give the UK the greatest chance of providing a safe and effective vaccine, recognising that many, and possibly all, of these vaccines could fail
No-one has ever done mass vaccination of adults anywhere in the world before and the two-dose regimen, plus cold-chain restrictions for some vaccines, adds to the complexity of this deployment operation. National Health Service England has flexible deployment plans to start the vaccination of prioritised cohorts as soon as the vaccines are approved by the regulatory authorities, currently not to be coadministered with the influenza vaccination (although clinical trials are exploring coadministration of influenza and COVID-19 vaccines). Deployment plans have been developed for a range of settings from mass vaccination sites to large and small mobile (eg, pop-up) sites, general-practitioner surgeries and pharmacies, and even roving teams to visit people in care homes and people who are housebound or shielding.
10-29-2020, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Never a good sign when a government commission - any government’s commission - is trying to lower expectations. It implies they oversold the idea to begin with
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...175-9/fulltext
some excerpts:
Even so, it is at least a frank admission of the problems and uncertainties a vaccine cure faces. And a lot of people need to hear that.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...175-9/fulltext
some excerpts:
Even so, it is at least a frank admission of the problems and uncertainties a vaccine cure faces. And a lot of people need to hear that.
10-30-2020, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by skywatch
Where we at with those impending deaths coming with the rise in the "infections"? Have we hit 400000 yet?
10-30-2020, 08:00 PM
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10-30-2020, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
10-30-2020, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
CNN throwing shade a few days before the election?
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...175-9/fulltext
Some excerpts:
However, we do not know that we will ever have a vaccine at all. It is important to guard against complacency and over-optimism. The first generation of vaccines is likely to be imperfect, and we should be prepared that they might not prevent infection but rather reduce symptoms, and, even then, might not work for everyone or for long.
No-one has ever done mass vaccination of adults anywhere in the world before and the two-dose regimen, plus cold-chain restrictions for some vaccines, adds to the complexity of this deployment operation. National Health Service England has flexible deployment plans to start the vaccination of prioritised cohorts as soon as the vaccines are approved by the regulatory authorities, currently not to be coadministered with the influenza vaccination (although clinical trials are exploring coadministration of influenza and COVID-19 vaccines). Deployment plans have been developed for a range of settings from mass vaccination sites to large and small mobile (eg, pop-up) sites, general-practitioner surgeries and pharmacies, and even roving teams to visit people in care homes and people who are housebound or shielding.
10-30-2020, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by All Bizniz
The massive financial injection into the economy by the government didn't hurt either.
I say that with a tinge of sarcasm as it was every bit as political as it was necessary.
But for their intervention, the stock market would've been in shambles right now. And the reality is, the shakeout wrt the economy is yet to play itself out...
Winter is coming...
I say that with a tinge of sarcasm as it was every bit as political as it was necessary.
But for their intervention, the stock market would've been in shambles right now. And the reality is, the shakeout wrt the economy is yet to play itself out...
Winter is coming...
Joe Biden
10-31-2020, 05:40 AM
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Pfizer's first opportunity to see that data will be when 32 people in its trial become sick with Covid-19 -- and Bourla told investors that this has not yet happened.
This is literally the only reason why we are not seeing data yet. Not enough infections. This says absolutely nothing about the efficacy of the vaccine.
Seriously FormerFreightPuppy, we get it, you don’t believe this vaccine will work. It’s all you talk about. Give it a rest.
This is literally the only reason why we are not seeing data yet. Not enough infections. This says absolutely nothing about the efficacy of the vaccine.
Seriously FormerFreightPuppy, we get it, you don’t believe this vaccine will work. It’s all you talk about. Give it a rest.
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