Vaccine Development Summary
11-20-2021, 05:48 PM
#1071
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American Heart Association study on mRNA vax
"We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac
muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination."
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muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination."
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11-20-2021, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bradthepilot
"We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac
muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination."
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muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination."
link
We already knew there was potential for cardiac inflammatory issues.
The population sampled appears to be patients of a cardiology clinic... so probably not representative of the population as a whole.
I don't think this tells us anything we didn't already know. Might be significant if the elevated markers persist long-term, but even so we'd have seen it by now if it translated to an actual problem (other than inflammatory events shortly after vaccination).
11-22-2021, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Of interest. However...
We already knew there was potential for cardiac inflammatory issues.
The population sampled appears to be patients of a cardiology clinic... so probably not representative of the population as a whole.
I don't think this tells us anything we didn't already know. Might be significant if the elevated markers persist long-term, but even so we'd have seen it by now if it translated to an actual problem (other than inflammatory events shortly after vaccination).
We already knew there was potential for cardiac inflammatory issues.
The population sampled appears to be patients of a cardiology clinic... so probably not representative of the population as a whole.
I don't think this tells us anything we didn't already know. Might be significant if the elevated markers persist long-term, but even so we'd have seen it by now if it translated to an actual problem (other than inflammatory events shortly after vaccination).
Sorry but with J and J pulled and Astrazeneca pulled for these issues, you know damn good and well if this wasn't covered under the government umbrella for risk these would've been pulled long ago. Both companies would be in billion dollar law suits just like the other countless drugs the FDA approved that killed people....Phen phen, vioxx, accutane....the list goes on and on. I'm not saying the FDA was dirty in approving. I'm saying many of these were pulled because of heart, liver, birth defects that were discovered of 3-10 years. These vaccines have definitely met the threshold for myocarditis risk in young men. BTW, CVS stopped administering J and J....wonder why? They are trying to decide the risk/reward for individuals. This is what the fight is about.
11-22-2021, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MIddle3rd
Sorry but with J and J pulled and Astrazeneca pulled for these issues, you know damn good and well if this wasn't covered under the government umbrella for risk these would've been pulled long ago. Both companies would be in billion dollar law suits just like the other countless drugs the FDA approved that killed people....Phen phen, vioxx, accutane....the list goes on and on. I'm not saying the FDA was dirty in approving. I'm saying many of these were pulled because of heart, liver, birth defects that were discovered of 3-10 years. These vaccines have definitely met the threshold for myocarditis risk in young men. BTW, CVS stopped administering J and J....wonder why? They are trying to decide the risk/reward for individuals. This is what the fight is about.
Also those are not mRNA vaccines. They are associated with rare blood clotting issues, not rare cardiac issues
What exactly are you talking about here? Please get your basic facts straight before you post.
11-28-2021, 05:34 PM
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Article on boosters and vaccine mods to address new variants...
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/27/10595...micron-variant
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/27/10595...micron-variant
12-01-2021, 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Article on boosters and vaccine mods to address new variants...
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/27/10595...micron-variant
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/27/10595...micron-variant
12-03-2021, 07:08 AM
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US pushed vaccine contracts in 2020 to mfg facilities with no experience or poor compliance with FDA standards...
https://www.reuters.com/world/the-gr...ts-2021-12-02/
https://www.reuters.com/world/the-gr...ts-2021-12-02/
12-04-2021, 12:08 PM
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Harvard study finds Moderna slightly more effective than pfizer against alpha and delta variants...
https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-new...searchers-say/
https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-new...searchers-say/
12-08-2021, 06:18 AM
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Pfizer claims that three shot regime "neutralizes" omicron, based on lab tests...
https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...on-2021-12-08/
Probably need to see some real-world data on that.
https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...on-2021-12-08/
Probably need to see some real-world data on that.
12-14-2021, 09:05 AM
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Pfizer two-dose regimen less effective against omicron, but still provides 70% protection against hospitalization (vice 93% against delta). This in no way addresses the statistical severity of omicron, which still appears lower than previous big variants.
https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...dy-2021-12-14/
Also more details on the WSJ.
https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...dy-2021-12-14/
Also more details on the WSJ.
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