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rickair7777 07-21-2020 07:24 AM

Astrazeneca reports encouraging progress in trials...

Of note, two-pronged immune response.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...scientists-say

Desdi 07-21-2020 05:06 PM

Isn’t this how those Zombie movies start?

furloughfuntime 07-21-2020 05:32 PM

There could be a perfect vaccine released tomorrow, but, as others have said, it might not change much. Here's a link to an article that says 50% of Americans would be unwilling to take the vaccine. Apparently the minimum vaccination level we would need is 75%, ideally 85%. The widespread lack of trust in our institutions and the rampant spread of conspiracy theories about the virus is perhaps more ominous than the virus itself.

GeeWizDriver 07-21-2020 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by furloughfuntime (Post 3096688)
There could be a perfect vaccine released tomorrow, but, as others have said, it might not change much. Here's a link to an article that says 50% of Americans would be unwilling to take the vaccine. Apparently the minimum vaccination level we would need is 75%, ideally 85%. The widespread lack of trust in our institutions and the rampant spread of conspiracy theories about the virus is perhaps more ominous than the virus itself.

A retired pathologist of my acquaintance, one with 40 years of experience in virology and infectious disease, explained the vaccine development process to me at dinner last Tuesday night. In detail. Long story short, it's a year to develop in the lab. Then two years to verify safety. Then another two years to verify effectiveness. Five years total. On a fast track.

He and his wife are in their mid 70's and he said there is no way in HE// they will subject themselves to a vaccine developed in less than a year.

Excargodog 07-21-2020 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by furloughfuntime (Post 3096688)
There could be a perfect vaccine released tomorrow, but, as others have said, it might not change much. Here's a link to an article that says 50% of Americans would be unwilling to take the vaccine. Apparently the minimum vaccination level we would need is 75%, ideally 85%. The widespread lack of trust in our institutions and the rampant spread of conspiracy theories about the virus is perhaps more ominous than the virus itself.


You write as if you believe that is a distinctly American problem. It is not:

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-va...any/a-54146673

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...vey-finds.aspx

https://tass.com/society/1164499


https://www.politico.eu/article/why-...y-go-to-waste/

Excargodog 07-21-2020 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver (Post 3096691)
A retired pathologist of my acquaintance, one with 40 years of experience in virology and infectious disease, explained the vaccine development process to me at dinner last Tuesday night. In detail. Long story short, it's a year to develop in the lab. Then two years to verify safety. Then another two years to verify effectiveness. Five years total. On a fast track.

He and his wife are in their mid 70's and he said there is no way in HE// they will subject themselves to a vaccine developed in less than a year.

The fastest any vaccine has ever been developed and put into use - to my knowledge - is the Ebola vaccine. It is not generally used, but given only to wall off outbreaks (ring immunization) of Ebola which even with good medical care has about a 25% death rate and without good care as high as 90%. It is a pretty miserable immunization to take but appears fairly safe:

https://www.who.int/emergencies/dise.../ebola-vaccine

however “community resistance” to these immunizations “remains a problem.”

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...al-drc-region/

furloughfuntime 07-21-2020 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3096700)

I never said it was. This is a global phenomenon probably more related to the internet and the ability for people to take shelter in ideological bubbles that become increasingly detached from reality rather than any cultural predilection.

Excargodog 07-21-2020 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by furloughfuntime (Post 3096743)
This is a global phenomenon probably more related to the internet and the ability for people to take shelter in ideological bubbles that become increasingly detached from reality rather than any cultural predilection.

So it’s Al Gore’s fault? :D

furloughfuntime 07-21-2020 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3096751)
So it’s Al Gore’s fault? :D

It all makes sense now.

lol

in other news, I found a new mission for ALPA to undertake to support pilots afflicted with Covid19

https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilyea.../#7537f5a14d9d

#pot4pilots
maybe that guy i knew in college was right that "a doobie a day keeps the doctor away"

rickair7777 07-21-2020 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver (Post 3096691)
A retired pathologist of my acquaintance, one with 40 years of experience in virology and infectious disease, explained the vaccine development process to me at dinner last Tuesday night. In detail. Long story short, it's a year to develop in the lab. Then two years to verify safety. Then another two years to verify effectiveness. Five years total. On a fast track.

He and his wife are in their mid 70's and he said there is no way in HE// they will subject themselves to a vaccine developed in less than a year.

His problem is he's retired and his experience is 40 years out of date. But whether to get vaccinated is of course your choice.


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