Vaccine Development Summary
04-14-2021, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
For J&J it's six known cases out of 7M doses, with one fatality. Even if they think there's a link, they won't de-certify the vaccine over those numbers, worst case probably restrict it to certain demographics.
The mRNA numbers have to be considered in light of 100's of millions of doses delivered...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2C11LC
The mRNA numbers have to be considered in light of 100's of millions of doses delivered...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2C11LC
04-14-2021, 07:27 PM
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A silver lining is that there's already talk about using mRNA to treat everything from Cancer to AIDS to MS. Considering how well those vaccines have performed so far, this could be the beginning of a huge medical breakthrough that helps us with a lot more than just COVID.
04-15-2021, 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Duffman
A silver lining is that there's already talk about using mRNA to treat everything from Cancer to AIDS to MS. Considering how well those vaccines have performed so far, this could be the beginning of a huge medical breakthrough that helps us with a lot more than just COVID.
Potential HIV vaccine utilizing same mRNA technology as COVID-19 vaccine shows promise in early human trial (fox5ny.com)
04-15-2021, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Duffman
A silver lining is that there's already talk about using mRNA to treat everything from Cancer to AIDS to MS. Considering how well those vaccines have performed so far, this could be the beginning of a huge medical breakthrough that helps us with a lot more than just COVID.
04-15-2021, 06:04 AM
#925
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CNN article this morning reporting almost 5800 breakout cases in fully vaccinated people....
Have to dig WAY down to see that's 5800 cases out of 77M fully vaccinated (0.0075%), 40% of breakouts were people over the age of 60, and 29% of breakouts were asymptomatic.
Have to dig WAY down to see that's 5800 cases out of 77M fully vaccinated (0.0075%), 40% of breakouts were people over the age of 60, and 29% of breakouts were asymptomatic.
04-15-2021, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
CNN article this morning reporting almost 5800 breakout cases in fully vaccinated people....
Have to dig WAY down to see that's 5800 cases out of 77M fully vaccinated (0.0075%), 40% of breakouts were people over the age of 60, and 29% of breakouts were asymptomatic.
Have to dig WAY down to see that's 5800 cases out of 77M fully vaccinated (0.0075%), 40% of breakouts were people over the age of 60, and 29% of breakouts were asymptomatic.
Did CNN bother to mention that the vaccine prevents practically all deaths and hospitalizations?
As if there was any doubt, this sheds some light on CNN's motives...
https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-st...eritas-ratings
04-15-2021, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
That's actually the kind of thing the mRNA technology was originally envisioned for, covid just gave it a break out opportunity to demonstrate it's utility quickly.
04-15-2021, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Did CNN bother to mention that the vaccine prevents practically all deaths and hospitalizations?
Some became seriously ill and 74 people died, the CDC said. It said 396 -- 7% -- of those who got infected after they were vaccinated required hospitalization."
Judge for yourself how far down you have to go in their story to find information that provides vital perspective...
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/14/healt...cdc/index.html
04-15-2021, 06:24 AM
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In any vaccine, there are individuals who don’t develop an immune response. It just doesn’t “take”. Out of millions vaccinated, the CNN (CDC) numbers aren’t surprising.
A friend was infected virtually simultaneously with being Pfizer vaccinated—essentially a minor cough for a day. It’s certainly possible people were infected before an immune response or it didn’t take.
A friend was infected virtually simultaneously with being Pfizer vaccinated—essentially a minor cough for a day. It’s certainly possible people were infected before an immune response or it didn’t take.
04-15-2021, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
"About 5,800 people who have been vaccinated against coronavirus have become infected anyway, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tells CNN.
Some became seriously ill and 74 people died, the CDC said. It said 396 -- 7% -- of those who got infected after they were vaccinated required hospitalization."
Judge for yourself how far down you have to go in their story to find information that provides vital perspective...
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/14/healt...cdc/index.html
Some became seriously ill and 74 people died, the CDC said. It said 396 -- 7% -- of those who got infected after they were vaccinated required hospitalization."
Judge for yourself how far down you have to go in their story to find information that provides vital perspective...
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/14/healt...cdc/index.html
I like how they mislead with that 7% number... if you're not paying close attention to their goobledy-gook you'd think that if you get vaccinated you've got a 7% chance of getting covid and going to the hospital. But their readership flock probably thinks they have a 70% chance of dying from covid as it is
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