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Old 11-09-2020, 08:44 AM   #1271  
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Y. Has nothing to do with the constitution, nobody is taking your rights away, it’s not your right to act irresponsibly and infect someone.
Sure it is. If you don't have a covid diagnosis (or reasonable suspicion therefore) it's your right to act any way you please. At some point if you're obviously contagious, we can mostly agree that society can place some limits on you. But otherwise, no.

I don't advocate irresponsible behavior, but it's (still) a free country. If you want people to behave in a certain way, you're also free to try to convince them. But you certainly don't have the right to tell everybody else what to do, in any arbitrary fashion or circumstance which strikes your fancy. That's why King George got the boot.
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Old 11-09-2020, 09:13 AM   #1272  
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We've demonstrated that we can actually LEAVE the planet. I don't think we're along for any rides we don't want to be on.
Meaningless comparison.
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Old 11-09-2020, 10:38 AM   #1273  
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The belief that humanity can decisively control a virus, especially a new virus, is both naive and arrogant. We're along for the ride on this planet whether you like it or not.
... as the sky darkened and the air cooled they continued to argue the existence of the approaching asteroid ...

Something will get us ... sooner or later.
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Old 11-09-2020, 10:51 AM   #1274  
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Biden won but thankfully it looks like the Republicans will keep the Senate to keep the "squad" from taking over Biden and the country. You want to know why so many people voted for Trump? You can thank the radical left for that.
So the MAJORITY of the country is radical left? That seems a bit counter-intuitive.
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So the MAJORITY of the country is radical left? That seems a bit counter-intuitive.
What did the polls say? Biden in a landslide while gaining a whole bunch of seats in the House and taking the Senate. None of that happened. Barely won the election, only gained a few seats in the House, and not taking the majority in the Senate. So yes, the radical left definitely had a negative impact on the election for the Democrats. You pushed enough swing voters to pick the lessor of two evils and that is Trump and a Republican slate over the policies of the radical left.
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Old 11-09-2020, 12:42 PM   #1276  
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On the good news front, I think any chance of a green new deal has gone up in smoke, assuming it was ever anything but a pipe dream to begin with.

I know, thread drift. Letís get back on target, preferably with better news tomorrow.
Why is it up in smoke I thought the dems were all about that before?
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What did the polls say? Biden in a landslide while gaining a whole bunch of seats in the House and taking the Senate. None of that happened. Barely won the election, only gained a few seats in the House, and not taking the majority in the Senate. So yes, the radical left definitely had a negative impact on the election for the Democrats. You pushed enough swing voters to pick the lessor of two evils and that is Trump and a Republican slate over the policies of the radical left.
Are you sure the radical right didn't disenfranchise enough swing voters to put Biden in the White House?

I think the operative point here is that both parties are wearing their fringe element on an anchor chain around their necks while most Americans would like to operate with both mains straddling centerline. The primary process has made it impossible for mainstream views to win nominations.
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Old 11-09-2020, 01:05 PM   #1279  
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Are you sure the radical right didn't disenfranchise enough swing voters to put Biden in the White House?

I think the operative point here is that both parties are wearing their fringe element on an anchor chain around their necks while most Americans would like to operate with both mains straddling centerline. The primary process has made it impossible for mainstream views to win nominations.
I think this election was going to a Democrat no matter what. It was even closer than what I expected. The actions and talk of the radical left in 2020 made the election a lot closer whether you like it or not.

If there was a strong moderate democrate running in place of Biden who picked a radical running mate and seems to be told what to do/say the Democrats take the presidency by 10 points and the Senate too.
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The 11-8 numbers are promising. I think the post election trepidation is subsiding. It will be interesting now that Pfizer vaccine has been announced 90% effective. Distribution should be right around the corner. Our numbers will continue to climb.
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