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Old 05-03-2021, 08:04 AM   #2451  
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Staying in the 1 to 1.5 mil range is about all we can expect IMO until the various local, state and fed entities get their heads out of the sand and just flat out open up like TX. Who the heck wants to take their kids to Disney with masks, distancing, reservations for certain rides and attractions? Some do but the numbers aren't really going to explode until the majority of people in this country decide that they've had enough and pull the masks off and start living again regardless of what their local, state or fed pols are telling them.

But, if 1 to 1.5 is what we can sustain, I'll take it. It seems it has reduced the bleeding and some carriers are turning a very minor profit or close to it. LCCs and ULCCs in particular.
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Staying in the 1 to 1.5 mil range is about all we can expect IMO until the various local, state and fed entities get their heads out of the sand and just flat out open up like TX. Who the heck wants to take their kids to Disney with masks, distancing, reservations for certain rides and attractions? Some do but the numbers aren't really going to explode until the majority of people in this country decide that they've had enough and pull the masks off and start living again regardless of what their local, state or fed pols are telling them.

But, if 1 to 1.5 is what we can sustain, I'll take it. It seems it has reduced the bleeding and some carriers are turning a very minor profit or close to it. LCCs and ULCCs in particular.
I think with the recent capacity increases for many carriers, we'll continue to see growth through the Summer. Lots of popular vacation spots are wide open, and United is even advertising direct flights to Greece, Ireland, etc.
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3229794[/url]]Staying in the 1 to 1.5 mil range is about all we can expect IMO until the various local, state and fed entities get their heads out of the sand and just flat out open up like TX. Who the heck wants to take their kids to Disney with masks, distancing, reservations for certain rides and attractions? Some do but the numbers aren't really going to explode until the majority of people in this country decide that they've had enough and pull the masks off and start living again regardless of what their local, state or fed pols are telling them.

But, if 1 to 1.5 is what we can sustain, I'll take it. It seems it has reduced the bleeding and some carriers are turning a very minor profit or close to it. LCCs and ULCCs in particular.
I agree, and I also believe hefty price increases are possible because all who want to fly are flying and are willing to pay a premium. We had the $30 a ticket crowd to fill seats and add capacity earlier. Enough pricing power Is here to increase revenue at the current capacity until the rest of the flying public are motivated to start flying again, and capacity can get back to normal.
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Staying in the 1 to 1.5 mil range is about all we can expect IMO until the various local, state and fed entities get their heads out of the sand and just flat out open up like TX. Who the heck wants to take their kids to Disney with masks, distancing, reservations for certain rides and attractions? Some do but the numbers aren't really going to explode until the majority of people in this country decide that they've had enough and pull the masks off and start living again regardless of what their local, state or fed pols are telling them.

But, if 1 to 1.5 is what we can sustain, I'll take it. It seems it has reduced the bleeding and some carriers are turning a very minor profit or close to it. LCCs and ULCCs in particular.
Funny you say that. FL just is no longer under a state of emergency and no mandates of any kind will occur. If Disney (and any other businesses) still wants masks, it’ll happen though.
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Funny you say that. FL just is no longer under a state of emergency and no mandates of any kind will occur. If Disney (and any other businesses) still wants masks, it’ll happen though.
Statewide, sure. Counties have their mask mandates, and they have not yet been lifted.
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Monday 1.46 mm,
+295 K, 3.1% - wow growth - 100% in 17 weeks if sustained
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vs. 2019-
Day 59%, 1wk 60%, 2wk 59%

good so far. Leisure travel rate (Thur-Mon) 63% - highest since Easter @ 65%
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Statewide, sure. Counties have their mask mandates, and they have not yet been lifted.
Not true actually. DeSantis issued an EO yesterday which invalidates all local-level CV restrictions.

If individual businesses want to keep things in place they are free to do so, but they cannot be enforced by county or city governments.
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Not true actually. DeSantis issued an EO yesterday which invalidates all local-level CV restrictions.

If individual businesses want to keep things in place they are free to do so, but they cannot be enforced by county or city governments.
thanks.my personal observations from last week were obsoleted by this.
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Not true actually. DeSantis issued an EO yesterday which invalidates all local-level CV restrictions.

If individual businesses want to keep things in place they are free to do so, but they cannot be enforced by county or city governments.
This is going to be very interesting how it plays out. Currently most large businesses in my city in FL all state “masks required due to local ordinance.” Well now it’s not required but as you said, the business can require it. They will have to change their signs if they plan to continue the charade. I suspect a couple months of awkward moments before the nonsense is fully over.
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This is going to be very interesting how it plays out. Currently most large businesses in my city in FL all state “masks required due to local ordinance.” Well now it’s not required but as you said, the business can require it. They will have to change their signs if they plan to continue the charade. I suspect a couple months of awkward moments before the nonsense is fully over.
I was curious about this as well. My gym in Palm Beach County has always had the same ‘...due to local ordinance...’ signs up and still did when I came in today. Nobody wears masks inside anyways, but they still have the posters up.
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