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Old 06-22-2021, 12:44 PM
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I'm aware of that but 70% of 2019 might be actual 75-80% of US carrier traffic.

I know the airlines keep actual passenger data close hold, so it would be a but harder to see what Legacy + LCC/ULCC passenger counts are vs 2019.

TSA gives us a good overall though.

I'm just thinking JFK.
Terminal 1, not even sure if any US carriers are

I'd say 1/2 the international out if 4 isn't Delta. Heck I'd be surprised if 1/2 is Delta + KLM + AF

6 is JB. I don't go there not sure if other international carriers are there.

7 I think is Alaska and a crap ton of foreign.

8 is American but they seem to have as much foreign carriers as we do over at 4.

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Old 06-22-2021, 12:49 PM
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Just an observation, but the busiest days so far seems to have been (with corresponding % of 2019 numbers):

June 20: 77%

June 18: 75%

June 13: 79%

It will be interesting to see July 4 weekend. Summer is "over" (kids-wise) in mid-August, in most of USA.

The airlines are hiring again, planes are coming out of the desert, etc, so we are on the right track. Maybe that "missing" 20% of 2019 is our business or international piece.
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It’s gonna hover around 2M a day until the international flying picks back up… then it will be back to pre pandemic levels… maybe the Fall?
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Originally Posted by ugleeual View Post
It’s gonna hover around 2M a day until the international flying picks back up… then it will be back to pre pandemic levels… maybe the Fall?
I dunno, some of the MSM is already hyping the next wave and lockdowns for the D variant...
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
I dunno, some of the MSM is already hyping the next wave and lockdowns for the D variant...
I think the credibility of the MSM and even the public health community itself is largely spent at this point. Barring a worldwide Ebola epidemic, it ain’t gonna happen.
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Old 06-23-2021, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CX500T View Post

6 is JB. I don't go there not sure if other international carriers are there.
Small correction, JB is terminal 5 along with Aer Lingus and TAP
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Originally Posted by Desdi View Post
Small correction, JB is terminal 5 along with Aer Lingus and TAP
I have done a few México flights lately out if DFW and coming back the customs area is about 1/2 full. So some international is coming back.
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Old 06-26-2021, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld View Post
Good question about how domestic gap is feeding international.

On a simpler level, how much of the gap is domestic and how much is international PAX? Stated differently, if PAX loads are 75% of the 2019 levels, how much of that 25% gap is PAX load difference on domestic flights and how much is on international flights?

The gap is roughly 12% in 2014. 13% in 2019.

Domestic numbers in June of 2015 were 61.8m. If you avg 2m a day, we hit 60m this month.

So we are domestically at about 2015 numbers. 2.2m/day gives is 2016 numbers. It was about 2016 that no carrier could keep up with demand right and hiring started picking up? Then when that merged with 2018 retirements increasing exponentially, demand was hard to keep up with. So we aren’t that far off from that again, even if international doesn’t pickup.

2019 June was 76.7m/m or 2.5m/d. So domestically speaking, we are 80% of 2019…..if all of our 2m/d is domestic. but I don’t know how much of the 2m/d now is international.
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Originally Posted by pangolin View Post
I have done a few México flights lately out if DFW and coming back the customs area is about 1/2 full. So some international is coming back.
"coming back"

would you consider this recreational/tourist or business travel
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Originally Posted by hercretired View Post
"coming back"

would you consider this recreational/tourist or business travel
Lot of white guys with felt sombreros, anyone’s guess, really.
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