150,000 Americans Dead
#951
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,649
My point was your definition of “hoaxer” was ridiculously, overly broad because you lumped ANY criticism of mitigation efforts, or mention of the downsides of those mitigation efforts, into the “hoaxer” category.
You threw the baby out with the bath water and in doing so, surrendered nuance, logic, reason and intellectual discourse on this topic to your own emotion.
You threw the baby out with the bath water and in doing so, surrendered nuance, logic, reason and intellectual discourse on this topic to your own emotion.
And no need to engage the panicky alarmist further since some of us know how silly the village idiot sounds.
We can only hope that your quote/post above gives us another week-ish reprieve from his rantings. At least for Kaputt's sake.
#952
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,030
My point was your definition of “hoaxer” was ridiculously, overly broad because you lumped ANY criticism of mitigation efforts, or mention of the downsides of those mitigation efforts, into the “hoaxer” category.
You threw the baby out with the bath water and in doing so, surrendered nuance, logic, reason and intellectual discourse on this topic to your own emotion.
You threw the baby out with the bath water and in doing so, surrendered nuance, logic, reason and intellectual discourse on this topic to your own emotion.
#956
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Position: NBC
Posts: 763
Well, it's not even August 1st, and we're here. To be fair, this has exceeded all of our expectations with how much death this virus can bring. And we're not even close to being done yet. The fall and winter are going to be absolutely devastating without a major course correction.
It's a trip to go back to when the outbreak first started in March and April to read the predictions of where this was going. I'm curious if some of those early deniers have evolved their positions. I would guess not. Here's Speed Select's post from two days ago:
So obviously he hasn't evolved from his position from months ago. One thing he's absolutely wrong on. It's not survival of the fittest, it's survival of the richest. The rich will have the resources to remove themselves from high risk scenarios where the poor will not. The rich will have access to high quality healthcare to keep them breathing, and the poor will not.
This natural selection nonsense is complete and utter propaganda. We aren't living on the plains of the Sub-Saharan savanna. We have a very unequal society which completely takes Darwinism off the table.
So coldly in return, Speed Select, I say take your economic hardship like a man. Your poor excuses for the deaths of hundreds of thousands are revolting and prejudicial at its core.
Those who prioritize the economy over health will get neither.
It's a trip to go back to when the outbreak first started in March and April to read the predictions of where this was going. I'm curious if some of those early deniers have evolved their positions. I would guess not. Here's Speed Select's post from two days ago:
Originally Posted by Speed Select
Coldly, I think natural selection will tamp down the lethality of the disease over the next generation or two (20-40 years). We will have to accept that those who are immunocompromised or live unhealthy lifestyles will be at a much higher risk to this disease than the more resilient, or watch the global economy collapse. Maybe this will ultimately end smoking and encourage healthy living. But science will rule, and natural selection will ultimately breed a healthier species.
Until then, it’s masks, Zoom, a depressed global economy, and maybe a world war (these are the economic conditions that historically preceded WW). Humanity has become excessively risk averse, and prioritizes safety above everything else, including livelihoods. I really think we’re looking at 10+ years of stunted growth as the global marketplace transforms, and instability to the global order as aggressors look to take advantage of the weakened global condition.
Coldly, I think natural selection will tamp down the lethality of the disease over the next generation or two (20-40 years). We will have to accept that those who are immunocompromised or live unhealthy lifestyles will be at a much higher risk to this disease than the more resilient, or watch the global economy collapse. Maybe this will ultimately end smoking and encourage healthy living. But science will rule, and natural selection will ultimately breed a healthier species.
Until then, it’s masks, Zoom, a depressed global economy, and maybe a world war (these are the economic conditions that historically preceded WW). Humanity has become excessively risk averse, and prioritizes safety above everything else, including livelihoods. I really think we’re looking at 10+ years of stunted growth as the global marketplace transforms, and instability to the global order as aggressors look to take advantage of the weakened global condition.
This natural selection nonsense is complete and utter propaganda. We aren't living on the plains of the Sub-Saharan savanna. We have a very unequal society which completely takes Darwinism off the table.
So coldly in return, Speed Select, I say take your economic hardship like a man. Your poor excuses for the deaths of hundreds of thousands are revolting and prejudicial at its core.
Those who prioritize the economy over health will get neither.
#957
Bracing for Fallacies
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
Posts: 3,543
My point was your definition of “hoaxer” was ridiculously, overly broad because you lumped ANY criticism of mitigation efforts, or mention of the downsides of those mitigation efforts, into the “hoaxer” category.
You threw the baby out with the bath water and in doing so, surrendered nuance, logic, reason and intellectual discourse on this topic to your own emotion.
You threw the baby out with the bath water and in doing so, surrendered nuance, logic, reason and intellectual discourse on this topic to your own emotion.
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