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Old 06-15-2020, 06:49 PM
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Let’s just hope there are no more programs coming to prop this silly business any further. On October first the airline business is free to go back to being a business....If the US airline industry needs to be 30% smaller then get it done......We place way to much importance on this game anyway. Some pieces of the US economy like leisure travel, tourism etc may dwindle and if it happens it happens. Business will adapt as free enterprise always does. The US transportation was stretched to the breaking point anyway...A slow down for 3-5 years will greatly help that problem
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Old 06-15-2020, 07:32 PM
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Why do you guys keep saying the government caused it? The airlines were pulling down schedules well ahead of any government orders, because their customers were cancelling flights en masse.

I find it funny how pilots are against socialism until it benefits them, then they turn a blind eye. Sort of like how they look down on unions... except they're in one.
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Old 06-15-2020, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BoldPilot View Post
If airlines end up furloughing in October then this bailout money was useless. All we did was run up the national debt and put tax payers on the hook for it. I don’t see how this is going to be perceived as a good thing. Basically the CARES Act just kicked the can down the road.
Really, you actually believe this???
I think many will argue that getting their ducks in a row before oct 1 was a relief.
I’ve gotta assume you’re senior enough not to be affected. Enjoy another glass of wine....
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Old 06-15-2020, 11:31 PM
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Good to have some reprieve for an anomaly which no one started within the US. But here’s a rub: financial advisors, friends and family and or your parents have mentioned save for a minimum of 6 months pay for that rainy day, in this case survival mode for the past 2 decades if not forever. And that 6 months may not be enough and it is situation dependent, but that’s not where I am headed for fault finding. Everyone has heard it no matter what. So if it’s basically common sense and the public attempts to adhere to it or at least has been briefed to do it (not easy for many), then why didn’t the airlines have a 6 month pot? No excuses - buyback whatever, definitely no excuse. It’s life’s rules that while not concrete can help save the day but never applies or is heeded by the large entities. You have an umbrella or jacket at times don’t you in case it rains. Some will say that’s different based on occurrence rate so here’s the no excuse. You have a fire extinguisher in your home don’t you so how often have you used it or even looked at it? While it might not save the day, you might have a fighting chance. Doesn’t matter that no one saw this coming, crap rolls downhill; therefore, companies should have safety net. But you must agree, this debacle is consistent with companies being driven into the ground, concessions, bankruptcy, stock buyback and of course golden parachutes. They don’t get hurt, you do and many times the taxpayer will pay the piper or take on this burden. Debt is debt the future is wide open.
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Old 06-16-2020, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 View Post
Why do you guys keep saying the government caused it? The airlines were pulling down schedules well ahead of any government orders, because their customers were cancelling flights en masse.

I find it funny how pilots are against socialism until it benefits them, then they turn a blind eye. Sort of like how they look down on unions... except they're in one.
I find it funny to think a grown man is so naive as to call this Socialism.
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yea, to hell with those employees about to lose their jobs. That 6 months that they used to job hunt/stash away cash was unreasonable! It’s their own fault the feds told us all to stay home and not travel...........Dude, u are a first class, grade A douche bag.
Way to sound like an elitist dude. You do realize there were many others that lost their jobs with barely a 2 weeks notice. Of course you don’t see that, because the point of the post is that this was a short sighted decision by our politicians. It amazes me how much of you are always crying about socialism, but when it’s your own skin that needs saving you welcome it with open arms.
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Old 06-16-2020, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Opakapaka View Post
Really, you actually believe this???
I think many will argue that getting their ducks in a row before oct 1 was a relief.
I’ve gotta assume you’re senior enough not to be affected. Enjoy another glass of wine....
Why do you deserve to get your “ducks in a row” when millions of others never got this chance? I guess you think you’re more entitled than others.
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Old 06-16-2020, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BoldPilot View Post
Way to sound like an elitist dude. You do realize there were many others that lost their jobs with barely a 2 weeks notice. Of course you don’t see that, because the point of the post is that this was a short sighted decision by our politicians. It amazes me how much of you are always crying about socialism, but when it’s your own skin that needs saving you welcome it with open arms.
I’m well aware of others who are hurting. Some of them are my family. Spare me the BS. You’re comments were douchey, plain and simple. And stop ascribing beliefs to me. You won’t find one quote from me deriding any specific financial or government system. Not my style. Apology accepted.
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Why do you deserve to get your “ducks in a row” when millions of others never got this chance? I guess you think you’re more entitled than others.
so we should spread the pain equally. Got it. Now who sounds like a socialist?? ...

the reality is the feds specifically targeted airlines when they said stay home and don’t travel. Like I said, their shelter in place policies caused this. It’s completely reasonable to expect them to help fix the problem.
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 View Post
I’m well aware of others who are hurting. Some of them are my family. Spare me the BS. You’re comments were douchey, plain and simple. And stop ascribing beliefs to me. You won’t find one quote from me deriding any specific financial or government system. Not my style. Apology accepted.
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so we should spread the pain equally. Got it. Now who sounds like a socialist?? ...

the reality is the feds specifically targeted airlines when they said stay home and don’t travel. Like I said, their shelter in place policies caused this. It’s completely reasonable to expect them to help fix the problem.
Ummmm....okay. You must have a split personality or something. Dude, u are a first class, grade A douche bag! Have a good day!
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