16 Repub Senators join Dems in CARES ext
08-08-2020, 01:50 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by pangolin
It is NOT looking good at all. There’s nothing extending this in any proposal by either party.
- Bad for the economy. Since airlines are going to be smaller, it’s better for employees to move on to somewhere else sooner where they will be productive rather than staying attached to zombie firms who have no way to fully utilize their employees. Delaying this transition, having employees sit idle and unproductive, simply delays economic recovery.2. Bad for the airlines. Letting airlines shrink, and even fail, is better than keeping all of them around with too much capacity hobbling the entire industry and delaying all of the airlines’ recovery. When the government picks up payroll costs, that makes adding flights much less expensive which holds down fares and makes it tougher for airlines to recover. https://viewfromthewing.com/9-reason...is-a-bad-idea/
08-08-2020, 05:51 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by Varsity
$600 a week is absurd, and should have never happened.
08-08-2020, 06:37 AM
#13
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Yeah, the $600 per week was absurd and doesn't directly relate to the airline bailout.
Anectdotal example here. My wife worked part time and made, after taxes, about $700 per week. She was furloughed and we applied for UE. State benefit was a little over $500 per week. Fed kicked in another $600. After taxes was a little over a grand per week.
Now this really was to do nothing. Not be ready to work, having to answer the phone and be within a call out period of a domicile. She really WAS not doing anything and not held to be ready to do anything.
That is absurd.
They JUST called her back to work though so our gravy train has run out, cares extention or not.
Anectdotal example here. My wife worked part time and made, after taxes, about $700 per week. She was furloughed and we applied for UE. State benefit was a little over $500 per week. Fed kicked in another $600. After taxes was a little over a grand per week.
Now this really was to do nothing. Not be ready to work, having to answer the phone and be within a call out period of a domicile. She really WAS not doing anything and not held to be ready to do anything.
That is absurd.
They JUST called her back to work though so our gravy train has run out, cares extention or not.
08-08-2020, 06:47 AM
#14
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
Yeah, the $600 per week was absurd and doesn't directly relate to the airline bailout.
Anectdotal example here. My wife worked part time and made, after taxes, about $700 per week. She was furloughed and we applied for UE. State benefit was a little over $500 per week. Fed kicked in another $600. After taxes was a little over a grand per week.
Now this really was to do nothing. Not be ready to work, having to answer the phone and be within a call out period of a domicile. She really WAS not doing anything and not held to be ready to do anything.
That is absurd.
They JUST called her back to work though so our gravy train has run out, cares extention or not.
Anectdotal example here. My wife worked part time and made, after taxes, about $700 per week. She was furloughed and we applied for UE. State benefit was a little over $500 per week. Fed kicked in another $600. After taxes was a little over a grand per week.
Now this really was to do nothing. Not be ready to work, having to answer the phone and be within a call out period of a domicile. She really WAS not doing anything and not held to be ready to do anything.
That is absurd.
They JUST called her back to work though so our gravy train has run out, cares extention or not.
08-08-2020, 11:05 AM
#16
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Originally Posted by Kleinschmidt
Sounds like it worked exactly as it was designed to work.
08-08-2020, 01:04 PM
#17
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So what is everyone’s thoughts on the extension of the Payroll Support Program for airlines? Will it happen? It’s sad the amount of airline personnel that will lose their job on Oct 1st. 2020.... the year the airline industry tanked. Thoughts?
08-08-2020, 01:09 PM
#18
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Originally Posted by AaronFly4Livin
So what is everyone’s thoughts on the extension of the Payroll Support Program for airlines? Will it happen? It’s sad the amount of airline personnel that will lose their job on Oct 1st. 2020.... the year the airline industry tanked. Thoughts?
08-08-2020, 01:18 PM
#19
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Originally Posted by AaronFly4Livin
So what is everyone’s thoughts on the extension of the Payroll Support Program for airlines? Will it happen? It’s sad the amount of airline personnel that will lose their job on Oct 1st. 2020.... the year the airline industry tanked. Thoughts?
08-08-2020, 05:30 PM
#20
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Originally Posted by EXPAT1
. A very bad economic idea.
- Bad for the economy. Since airlines are going to be smaller, it’s better for employees to move on to somewhere else sooner where they will be productive rather than staying attached to zombie firms who have no way to fully utilize their employees. Delaying this transition, having employees sit idle and unproductive, simply delays economic recovery.2. Bad for the airlines. Letting airlines shrink, and even fail, is better than keeping all of them around with too much capacity hobbling the entire industry and delaying all of the airlines’ recovery. When the government picks up payroll costs, that makes adding flights much less expensive which holds down fares and makes it tougher for airlines to recover. https://viewfromthewing.com/9-reason...is-a-bad-idea/
