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galaxy flyer 08-11-2020 04:55 PM

Land in South Africa without a YF vaccination in a record and you’ll have an opportunity to get one, right now, do not check in at the Michelangelo. It wasn’t me, it was the F/A.

Twin Wasp 08-12-2020 12:37 AM

The Yellow Fever shot is required at some airlines because some of the countries they fly to require it. If some country requires Covid immunization before entry when a vaccine becomes available an airline could require it if they fly to that country.

ClncClarence 08-12-2020 02:53 AM

DAL requires the YF vaccine before starting day 1 of indoc.

TiredSoul 08-12-2020 03:16 AM


Originally Posted by flightmedic01 (Post 3108663)
Any thoughts??


If you trust Jezus will keep you safe go fly a 206 in Africa and don’t bother us.

Soxfan1 08-12-2020 03:35 AM

For those that think it not being in your contract somehow prevents this from happening, should it actually happen, this has “added to a manual” written all over it.

rickair7777 08-12-2020 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Soxfan1 (Post 3108881)
For those that think it not being in your contract somehow prevents this from happening, should it actually happen, this has “added to a manual” written all over it.

Yes there is plenty of existing legal basis for employers to require vaccinations, you can google that to your heart's content, it's out there. Also plenty of discussion relevant to potential covid vaccine requirements.

As I said before, employers will prefer not to go there but they will if the landscape (safety or liability) obviously needs it.

Legislation is the wild card, that could go either way or anything in between... congress (or state assemblies) could legislate that organizations cannot be sued for requiring vaccinations, or to the other extreme, could legislate that they cannot require vaccines. Federal legislation would preempt state legislation (unless SCOTUS deemed it unconstitutional over-reach).

Politicians, like employers, will prefer not to go there either if they can avoid it. Depends on how things play out.

But most other countries (western socialist or totalitarian) have no qualms about mandating vaccination, so if you're hell-bent on not getting getting vaccinated and work for a major you're going to need to bid for CONUS and Latin America. If you're on reserve, you're probably SOL.

Grumpyaviator 08-13-2020 02:18 PM

What is the potential liability if employers require a vaccine that turns out to have unknown side effects because it wasn’t tested thoroughly?

Id prefer to wait to see if people have reactions to it.

rickair7777 08-13-2020 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 3109623)
What is the potential liability if employers require a vaccine that turns out to have unknown side effects because it wasn’t tested thoroughly?

Probably no precedent for liability since there's probably never been an employer who required an non-certified vaccine.

If an employer requires a certified vaccine, then the certification is on the mfg and FDA. You can sue anybody for anything but, but you're probably only going to have a shot at the mfg. Even the FDA is probably untouchable.

There's no indication whatsoever that the US, any western nation, or even China is going to skip any of the normal testing so there won't be any basis for "wasn’t tested thoroughly". If a vaccine were to be approved without all normal testing complete (looks highly unlikely at this point), it would under be emergency authority and would be labeled as such.

Excargodog 08-13-2020 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3109660)
Probably no precedent for liability since there's probably never been an employer who required an non-certified vaccine.

If an employer requires a certified vaccine, then the certification is on the mfg and FDA. You can sue anybody for anything but, but you're probably only going to have a shot at the mfg. Even the FDA is probably untouchable.

There's no indication whatsoever that the US, any western nation, or even China is going to skip any of the normal testing so there won't be any basis for "wasn’t tested thoroughly". If a vaccine were to be approved without all normal testing complete (looks highly unlikely at this point), it would under be emergency authority and would be labeled as such.


Actually, the US assumed liability for vaccines years ago. It was the only way manufacturers would keep making them after that Bogus - and - never-to-be-sufficiently-damned Lancet article linking immunizations with autism.

https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compens...out/index.html

rickair7777 08-13-2020 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3109665)
Actually, the US assumed liability for vaccines years ago. It was the only way manufacturers would keep making them after that Bogus - and - never-to-be-sufficiently-damned Lancet article linking immunizations with autism.

https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compens...out/index.html

I think vaccines have to be specifically authorized by law to be part of the program, presumably covid vaccines would be.

The lancet article was retracted by the publisher years ago, after they learned that the lead researcher was getting paid by... you guessed it, lawyers who specialized in suing vaccine mfgs :rolleyes: Damage was done though.


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