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04-28-2021, 11:40 PM
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There has been so much mention of science on this COVID-19 subforum that I think it deserves it's own topic. Regardless of where one stands politically I think this 14 minute video talking about Science in general and Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit in particular is well worth watching for everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUB4j0n2UDU
I found the following article on "The Cognitive Science of Rationality" equally interesting and relevant.
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xLm9...of-rationality
Neither the video nor the article refer to COVID as they both predate the pandemic. But both offer great inside into how our minds work and how we try to make sense of the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUB4j0n2UDU
I found the following article on "The Cognitive Science of Rationality" equally interesting and relevant.
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xLm9...of-rationality
Neither the video nor the article refer to COVID as they both predate the pandemic. But both offer great inside into how our minds work and how we try to make sense of the world.
04-29-2021, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by germanaviator
There has been so much mention of science on this COVID-19 subforum that I think it deserves it's own topic. Regardless of where one stands politically I think this 14 minute video talking about Science in general and Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit in particular is well worth watching for everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUB4j0n2UDU
I found the following article on "The Cognitive Science of Rationality" equally interesting and relevant.
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xLm9...of-rationality
Neither the video nor the article refer to COVID as they both predate the pandemic. But both offer great inside into how our minds work and how we try to make sense of the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUB4j0n2UDU
I found the following article on "The Cognitive Science of Rationality" equally interesting and relevant.
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xLm9...of-rationality
Neither the video nor the article refer to COVID as they both predate the pandemic. But both offer great inside into how our minds work and how we try to make sense of the world.
04-29-2021, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Descendto450
I didn’t know there was any actual science on this forum. Most of what I’ve seen is Cherry picking of bias articles that support they way people feel. It’s been very indicative of what the U.S. political climate is and entertaining at times but science😂🤣🥲😎
Science never actually entered the 'Rona debate. It was fear mongering, media propaganda, and political pandering from the start. Amazing how effective it was - even without the central coordination of a fascist state in suppressing dissent and individual freedoms. Lesson learned by the dominators - yet to be seen if the dominated will learn anything from it.
04-29-2021, 05:20 AM
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When faced with something “novel”, fancy sounding word meaning new, science is NOT a pronouncement made by someone with lots of degrees, impressive title from the government. Science requires a lot more experiments, studies, data and repeatability. That does not occur overnight or even over months. Everyone was shooting from the hip from day One. It’s pretty find quotes from politicians, from medical community then that have proved to be flat out wrong, all would be embarrassed at how wrong.
04-29-2021, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
Science requires a lot more experiments, studies, data and repeatability. That does not occur overnight or even over months. Everyone was shooting from the hip from day One.
04-29-2021, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
When faced with something “novel”, fancy sounding word meaning new, science is NOT a pronouncement made by someone with lots of degrees, impressive title from the government. Science requires a lot more experiments, studies, data and repeatability. That does not occur overnight or even over months. Everyone was shooting from the hip from day One. It’s pretty find quotes from politicians, from medical community then that have proved to be flat out wrong, all would be embarrassed at how wrong.
04-29-2021, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1
If you think everyone was wrong, chances are you’re the one that’s wrong. Combination of confirmation bias. How many times on here was the word “liberal” or “the left” mentioned? Or even basements? It’s all just politics and ideology, there’s no science at all. Nobody can prove where or how you got the virus, just like they can’t prove masks 100% work, but they can go off science to try to reduce the risk for all. Ironically you don’t realize that the reason why the numbers aren’t worse is because states had restrictions and lockdowns. Remember that the original narrative on here was this was a hoax up until last summer.
https://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/99/1/20-265892/en/
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4509/rr
A reaction, that by the way, is estimated to put another 150,000,000 people in extreme poverty this year, an increase, which has not happened in the previous 20 years
https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/pr...e-poor-by-2021
04-29-2021, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by skywatch
There was never a narrative that this was a hoax. Everyone has always believed that there is a COVID-19 virus. What was up for debate was the need and/or effectiveness of the lockdowns and masking, which many scientists (the brave ones willing to get shouted down/at by the "true believers") have since said were likely ineffective and unnecessary for a virus, that it turns out, is looking more like it has a similar infection fatality rate as a bad flu. It was always a question of whether or not we were overreacting, which many now believe we were and still are.
https://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/99/1/20-265892/en/
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4509/rr
A reaction, that by the way, is estimated to put another 150,000,000 people in extreme poverty this year, an increase, which has not happened in the previous 20 years
https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/pr...e-poor-by-2021
https://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/99/1/20-265892/en/
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4509/rr
A reaction, that by the way, is estimated to put another 150,000,000 people in extreme poverty this year, an increase, which has not happened in the previous 20 years
https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/pr...e-poor-by-2021
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