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Old 10-20-2020, 02:26 PM
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https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...19-death-rates
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Old 10-20-2020, 02:35 PM
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drops in death rates is excellent news, for nobody wants people to die.

with that said, it is more complex than "COVID did/did not kill me." 14 day quarantines, patients who infect others, productivity hits, etc all impact the economy and impact society. fear cripples society, people don't want to get sick, period.

people sitting in hospital beds (but not "dead") do not travel, do not go to the office, are not at the factory assembling widgets. they do not spend either

death rates is just one metric of the problem.
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Old 10-20-2020, 02:36 PM
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Wow, The New York Times reported science and reality? But, that doesn’t fit with their agenda at all?
Confirmation bias much?

#fakenews
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Old 10-20-2020, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain View Post
drops in death rates is excellent news, for nobody wants people to die.
and yet ultimately, every single person will.

with that said, it is more complex than "COVID did/did not kill me."
Yet clearly, the ‘not kill’ option is preferable, n’est-ce-pas?



14 day quarantines,
This is an interesting pandemic. Generally we have never before quarantined the WELL people, just the sick ones.


patients who infect others,
Not unlike most infectious diseases...

productivity hits, etc all impact the economy and impact society. fear cripples society, people don't want to get sick, period.
The wussification of the culture.
I blame it on the elementary schools for outlawing dodgeball.

people sitting in hospital beds (but not "dead") do not travel, do not go to the office, are not at the factory assembling widgets. they do not spend either.
So, just out of interest, what percentage of the population do you believe are - at any given time - hospitalized? With 330 million people and only 924,000 hospital beds (according to the AHA https://www.aha.org/statistics/fast-facts-us-hospitals ) that would be less than a third of a percent of the US population, and that’s from ALL causes. I’m not sure you could pick a third of a percent out of the background noise.

death rates is just one metric of the problem.
But hardly a trivial one.

The reality is that we are in a rebound despite the higher numbers of cases and three or four months before there is an approved vaccine and probably a year and a half before we can get enough of it distributed to even approach herd immunity. Nobody can stay scared forever. Like in combat, you eventually compartmentalize your fear and move on.

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Wissification is the result of school buses and crossing guards.
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the general public or Karen in general do not understand compartmentalization of fear

they are the same people who watch The View to tell them how to put their socks on.

they post on Next Door to report a loud car muffler that drove down their street

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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
and yet ultimately, every single person will.



Yet clearly, the ‘not kill’ option is preferable, n’est-ce-pas?



This is an interesting pandemic. Generally we have never before quarantined the WELL people, just the sick ones.




Not unlike most infectious diseases...



The wussification of the culture.
I blame it on the elementary schools for outlawing dodgeball.



So, just out of interest, what percentage of the population do you believe are - at any given time - hospitalized? With 330 million people and only 924,000 hospital beds (according to the AHA https://www.aha.org/statistics/fast-facts-us-hospitals ) that would be less than a third of a percent of the US population, and that’s from ALL causes. I’m not sure you coukd pick a third of a percent out of the background noise.

But hardly a trivial one.

The reality is that we are in a rebound despite the higher numbers of cases and three or four months before there is an approved vaccine and probably a year and a half before we can get enough of it distributed to even approach herd immunity. Nobody can stay scared forever. Like in combat, you eventually compartmentalize your fear and move on.

Dodgeball was my favorite game.

The first time I was shot at in a helicopter I was way too busy doing my job to be scared. Use the same philosophy with the virus. Way too busy living my life to worry about a virus with a very low case fatality rate.

I know you know the history and odds of a successful corona virus vaccine so I won't go there.
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Old 10-20-2020, 03:44 PM
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Anybody who doesn’t realize that this too causes suffering




...isn’t very bright.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
Anybody who doesn’t realize that this too causes suffering




...isn’t very bright.

The deaths caused by the virus are saddening and tragic.

The ongoing devastation and loss of life around the world due to the lockdowns is, unfortunately, several orders of magnitude worse and due to the inability or lack of desire for the politicians of the world to reverse course it will be the gift that keeps on giving.
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I absolutely loved dodgeball day in PE at elementary school. My kids have no idea what they missed. :-\

I'm sure there'll be a train of posts to follow that will tell all of us that liked dodgeball only liked it because we were bullies or somesuch. They also probably think we should stay locked down until cases are zero.
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