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flightmedic01 12-13-2020 04:15 PM

People have lost their minds
 
https://www.theblaze.com/news/family...t-toddler-mask

Red Forman 12-13-2020 04:20 PM

Science n *******

flightmedic01 12-13-2020 04:23 PM

Riiiggghhhtttt. 🤦🏼‍♂️

TheDonald 12-13-2020 05:23 PM

Great!!!! I have daughter who just turned 2. We were planning a trip the end of the month and there's no way she'll wear a mask! I don't know what to do now? She's not required to wear a mask at her preschool. In fact no one under the age of 5 at her school has to wear a mask. How do you make a 2 year old wear a mask when she has the attention span of about 30 seconds?

flightmedic01 12-13-2020 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by flightmedic01 (Post 3170343)
Riiiggghhhtttt. 🤦🏼‍♂️


Originally Posted by TheDonald (Post 3170360)
Great!!!! I have daughter who just turned 2. We were planning a trip the end of the month and there's no way she'll wear a mask! I don't know what to do now? She's not required to wear a mask at her preschool. In fact no one under the age of 5 at her school has to wear a mask. How do you make a 2 year old wear a mask when she has the attention span of about 30 seconds?

Exactly. No one can provide any scientific evidence that masks actually make a difference. Show me a randomized controlled study that shows wearing a mask reduces transmission rates. Not someone’s opinion, but an actual scientific study. I’ll wait.......

82spukram 12-13-2020 05:36 PM

I wonder if there is more to the story. In the article that flightmedic posted she had her mask off to take a selfie.....I’m wondering if this family had a few warnings (granted that selfie was from a different flight).

as far as two year olds go....I have 4 kids. 2 of them would have worn a mask no problem the other 2 not so much.

JimLaheyTPS 12-13-2020 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by flightmedic01 (Post 3170367)
Exactly. No one can provide any scientific evidence that masks actually make a difference. Show me a randomized controlled study that shows wearing a mask reduces transmission rates. Not someone’s opinion, but an actual scientific study. I’ll wait.......

Show us your scientific study that supports your stance. We’ll wait......

flightmedic01 12-13-2020 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by JimLaheyTPS (Post 3170378)
Show us your scientific study that supports your stance. We’ll wait......

So you want me to prove a “negative”??? How is that supposed to work. Have you ever done randomized controlled studies??? Because I have in Emergency Medical Services. You need an experimental group and a control group. There is actually no scientific proof that asymptomatic people wearing a mask will reduce transmission rates. Will it hurt? Probably not, although there was a 2015 study (I’ll have to look up the reference) that showed an increase in infection in those wearing a mask (likely due to non-sterile techniques and increased touching of the face). Also, children have not been proven to be a vector for transmission of the virus. So we need to start using common sense and stop the fear mongering. This is a free country. We all need to assess the risks we are willing to accept. As I’ve said from the beginning, be responsible, protect the vulnerable, and live your life.

cadetdrivr 12-13-2020 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by flightmedic01 (Post 3170367)
Exactly. No one can provide any scientific evidence that masks actually make a difference. .

This took 4 seconds to find on the google.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...sars-cov2.html

But yeah, pilots are smarter than the CDC.

flightmedic01 12-13-2020 07:01 PM

From the article you referenced:

“Data regarding the “real-world” effectiveness of community masking are limited to observational and epidemiological studies.”

Which is my point, in that there are no randomized controlled studies. These are benchmark. The CDC “recommends” wearing masks. But do we want to make policy based on this? That’s for someone in a higher paygrade than me. Just be informed, thats all I’m saying.


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