Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires

Or it’s likely undercounted like everywhere else.

https://wgntv.com/news/wgn-investiga...d-the-experts/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...2270810/%3famp

And they still get their data from hospitals which are not fraudulently reporting numbers. And also research to minimize deaths falsely attributed to Covid. Either way the excess deaths are WELL above what has been classified as covid.

Originally Posted by HIFLYR

Sure whatever you say. Fact hospitals get a 20% increase for a COVID and in some cases 50k extra for a COVID patient. So your saying no way tgey would be incentivize to skew the data and not to mention the COVID test reporting false positives from previously infected individuals who were recovered and healthy.

Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires

That’s only from Medicare or uninsured patients and only for care related to Covid. And that’s part of the CARES act to offset lost funds due to a significant amount of resources diverted to Covid care. It’s not like they get rewarded for having a Covid death. So the patient has to fall into those categories and then still test positive. It’s up to you if you think that every healthcare worker everywhere is willing to risk their job and jail on that level of fraud. And still after ALL of that, it doesn’t lead to an increase in deaths reported as covid.

Are you equally upset that airlines got a bailout?

Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires

Or it’s likely undercounted like everywhere else.

https://wgntv.com/news/wgn-investiga...d-the-experts/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...2270810/%3famp

And they still get their data from hospitals which are not fraudulently reporting numbers. And also research to minimize deaths falsely attributed to Covid. Either way the excess deaths are WELL above what has been classified as covid.

Originally Posted by skywatch

This supposed to prove your point, from your article?

“Additionally, Dr. Emily Landon of University of Chicago Medicine said nearly everyone who had COVID-19 at the time they died will be counted as a coronavirus-related death by their local health department because, “there’s no other way for them to make up statistics properly.”

“This is kind of like the fog of war. It’s really hard to tell what’s happening in the middle of a pandemic,” Landon said.

However, Landon said “almost everyone” that has passed away with COVID-19 died, “largely because of COVID or because of complications COVID may have brought on.”

Originally Posted by fadec

​​​​​​If you want to run a downloaded .EXE file in your body to make some of it look like a pathogen and get killed by T-cells for target practice, be my guest.

I simply don't want my own cells becoming targets for my immune system. This might train an immune system to fight COVID, but it's like live-fire training with fellow countrymen dressed in enemy uniforms. Seriously, no thanks.

There's evidence that the mRNA carrying lipid nanoparticle can cross the blood-brain barrier. Neurons getting obliterated might explain the brain-fog issues. Neurons don't regenerate.

I'm also concerned about longer term effects such as prion disease. I've read the theory and debunkings, but it's pretty clear that both sides are speculating. We won't know the long term effects in the short term. It wouldn't be the first time a programmer delivered a bug-free program that wasn't actually bug-free.

Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot

So why not get the J&J? It’s not mRNA. I don’t care either way. You do you and I’m fine with it.

Originally Posted by spirited

Unfortunately, the woke are not