Stanford: Lockdowns provide no clear benefit
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I mean look at the other articles on there. Is that a rightwing propaganda website? Yes it must be the color of the state that’s the issue. Because what works in Arkansas, where your nearest neighbor is 8 miles away, must work in California or Connecticut. Or the fact that there’s more people living in all of Los Angeles or NY than all of Arkansas and Oklahoma combined. The virus is going to effect more populated areas than the less populated areas, and populated states/counties tend to be Democratic. I can see how they can spin that into left vs right.
In the meantime, I get you don't like the source, and may not get that their are big cities in the center of the country too. But all that aside, can you not just accept the numbers for what they are - real, verifiable truth?
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I mean look at the other articles on there. Is that a rightwing propaganda website? Yes it must be the color of the state that’s the issue. Because what works in Arkansas, where your nearest neighbor is 8 miles away, must work in California or Connecticut. Or the fact that there’s more people living in all of Los Angeles or NY than all of Arkansas and Oklahoma combined. The virus is going to effect more populated areas than the less populated areas, and populated states/counties tend to be Democratic. I can see how they can spin that into left vs right.
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The law of unintended consequences...
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A follow up is the just released Johns Hopkins study.
While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted. In consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument.
https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/fi...-Mortality.pdf
While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted. In consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument.
https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/fi...-Mortality.pdf
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"Lockdowns in Europe and the United States only reduced COVID-19 mortality by 0.2% on average," finds a meta-analysis of 24 studies published this week by researchers with the Johns Hopkins Institute for Applied Economics, Global Health, and the Study of Business Enterprise. "SIPOs [Shelter-in-place-orders] were also ineffective, only reducing COVID-19 mortality by 2.9% on average."
1. So when do the lawsuits begin?
2. I've noticed the folks with the bulldog mouths pro lock down have quieted down and softened their tone the last couple months. Both here and the media. It's like a certain sector of people and media don't want to talk about this big news. Weird!
*scratches head* think! Think!! I hope I figure this one out. Its a real conundrum!
1. So when do the lawsuits begin?
2. I've noticed the folks with the bulldog mouths pro lock down have quieted down and softened their tone the last couple months. Both here and the media. It's like a certain sector of people and media don't want to talk about this big news. Weird!
*scratches head* think! Think!! I hope I figure this one out. Its a real conundrum!
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"Lockdowns in Europe and the United States only reduced COVID-19 mortality by 0.2% on average," finds a meta-analysis of 24 studies published this week by researchers with the Johns Hopkins Institute for Applied Economics, Global Health, and the Study of Business Enterprise. "SIPOs [Shelter-in-place-orders] were also ineffective, only reducing COVID-19 mortality by 2.9% on average."
1. So when do the lawsuits begin?
2. I've noticed the folks with the bulldog mouths pro lock down have quieted down and softened their tone the last couple months. Both here and the media. It's like a certain sector of people and media don't want to talk about this big news. Weird!
*scratches head* think! Think!! I hope I figure this one out. Its a real conundrum!
1. So when do the lawsuits begin?
2. I've noticed the folks with the bulldog mouths pro lock down have quieted down and softened their tone the last couple months. Both here and the media. It's like a certain sector of people and media don't want to talk about this big news. Weird!
*scratches head* think! Think!! I hope I figure this one out. Its a real conundrum!
The majority under a president who had a plan for this.
Who had a vaccine for this.
Who said a president should "resign in disgrace" for 200,000 deaths for this.
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