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Old 02-14-2021, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by furloughfuntime View Post
It's quite funny how dumb people think they're smart because they're too dumb to recognize how dumb they are.
I agree. It’s funny how idiots think that all opinions are politically motivated, and make assumptions without any evidence to support them. The fact that you are so comfortable making judgements about me with no information says something about the opinions you have formed about the Pandemic too,yes? All you have to do is have an open mind, remove the emotion, and think but you cannot do that when you are panicking.

Facts - universally accepted - include A) the fatality rate is very low for those under 65. About the same as the flu. B) the testing in the US is overly sensitive- as many as 90% of “cases” are not infectious (C) the risks of “asymptotic spread” have been vastly overstated, particularly in children.

Yet politicians, idiots, and those that prefer to let others do their thinking for them continue to cling to this doomsday narrative and fail to see this for what it is - a major economic and humanitarian crisis that we created with our response. And now the collective we had too much pride to back track and admit we might have been wrong with our approach and so we continue on to Abilene.
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But you don't really care about nuance or facts, you're just a partisan who has been parroting the latest iteration of the covid hoax conspiracies while thinking yourself somehow enlightened. It's quite funny how dumb people think they're smart because they're too dumb to recognize how dumb they are.
What I find quite “funny” is how those who post comments about “how dumb” people are and how others can’t think are actually the most guilty of what they accuse others of being. Amazing, isn’t it!
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I agree. It’s funny how idiots think that all opinions are politically motivated, and make assumptions without any evidence to support them. The fact that you are so comfortable making judgements about me with no information says something about the opinions you have formed about the Pandemic too,yes? All you have to do is have an open mind, remove the emotion, and think but you cannot do that when you are panicking.

Facts - universally accepted - include A) the fatality rate is very low for those under 65. About the same as the flu. B) the testing in the US is overly sensitive- as many as 90% of “cases” are not infectious (C) the risks of “asymptotic spread” have been vastly overstated, particularly in children.

Yet politicians, idiots, and those that prefer to let others do their thinking for them continue to cling to this doomsday narrative and fail to see this for what it is - a major economic and humanitarian crisis that we created with our response. And now the collective we had too much pride to back track and admit we might have been wrong with our approach and so we continue on to Abilene.
You must be kidding. I mean seriously. Quarter of the cases and almost that in deaths yet we’re only 4% of the worlds population. That’s with all of us running around Everyman for himself style with no leadership to speak of. You think honestly the numbers would have been better had we done what you advocated? I hate to give you some bad news but you don’t get to go back and look at what happened just yet, this is not over. As far as your first point. Who’s being influenced more by politics? Someone that’s doing the right thing even if they don’t see the actual results short term or someone that just doesn’t want to do it all. The fact that you think masks or the man making you do stuff in a pandemic that you don’t want to do is completely separate from their efficacy. Your politics come in to fill that gap. We’re just doing it because it helps us move on, that’s good enough.
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You must be kidding. I mean seriously. Quarter of the cases and almost that in deaths yet we’re only 4% of the worlds population. ... Your politics come in to fill that gap. We’re just doing it because it helps us move on, that’s good enough.
While I don't like what you have often posted, and it seems you have as much bias as those whom you post against, I have to ask you some simple questions for thought:

1. Why is it there are so much variance in the statistics about deaths and cases between countries?
2. Has anyone ever addressed the possibility of different methods of determining what these two are between countries?
3. Could it be the leadership of the various countries and medical establishments in them have standards different than the USA?
4. Could it be within the USA the different states also have different standards of recording and verification of these statistics?

As too many layman, you and I included, start quoting the various secular articles and opinions it tends to get lost that none of the information is really correct nor validated in a consistent manner. Therefore most of our opinions are extremely flawed and represent more our personal biases than any real facts. Kind of like when airplane crashes are reported on, generally they are largely wrong and highlight the bias and entertainment needs of the reporter.


Now my personal rant:

My opinion is this, the leaders of the world have, for whatever reason, played a very dangerous game with their constituents. They have risked not only physical and economic health, they have quite possibly caused the greatest and most historic change in the world ever. I also believe it is quite clear that here in the USA many, they've all been named before, are using the crisis to further their own personal vision of the world. It is also clear in my view that politics (as we all like to call it) and not the health and social welfare of the Citizens of our Country is the major motivation of those same people.

Now, as I have written many times, how does this crisis end?

I know this, the virus will (and I have been writing it for almost a year now) mutate, people will become immune, and the vaccine will be a norm. However, these leaders will not give up their power through fear.

Ronald Reagan said this, "Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall!"

I say this:
President Biden, "Tear down the walls against the people of the USA you have built in our Nation's Capital!"

Good luck to us all.
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Old 02-14-2021, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Regularguy View Post
While I don't like what you have often posted, and it seems you have as much bias as those whom you post against, I have to ask you some simple questions for thought:

1. Why is it there are so much variance in the statistics about deaths and cases between countries?
2. Has anyone ever addressed the possibility of different methods of determining what these two are between countries?
3. Could it be the leadership of the various countries and medical establishments in them have standards different than the USA?
4. Could it be within the USA the different states also have different standards of recording and verification of these statistics?

As too many layman, you and I included, start quoting the various secular articles and opinions it tends to get lost that none of the information is really correct nor validated in a consistent manner. Therefore most of our opinions are extremely flawed and represent more our personal biases than any real facts. Kind of like when airplane crashes are reported on, generally they are largely wrong and highlight the bias and entertainment needs of the reporter.


Now my personal rant:

My opinion is this, the leaders of the world have, for whatever reason, played a very dangerous game with their constituents. They have risked not only physical and economic health, they have quite possibly caused the greatest and most historic change in the world ever. I also believe it is quite clear that here in the USA many, they've all been named before, are using the crisis to further their own personal vision of the world. It is also clear in my view that politics (as we all like to call it) and not the health and social welfare of the Citizens of our Country is the major motivation of those same people.

Now, as I have written many times, how does this crisis end?

I know this, the virus will (and I have been writing it for almost a year now) mutate, people will become immune, and the vaccine will be a norm. However, these leaders will not give up their power through fear.

Ronald Reagan said this, "Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall!"

I say this:
President Biden, "Tear down the walls against the people of the USA you have built in our Nation's Capital!"

Good luck to us all.
The politicians are not some superhuman beings, they’re just like you and me. They were all just as lost as everyone else in a pandemic. You’re never going to be able to satisfy all sides. Some of the constituents want to do the right thing, others think it’s a just a bad flu year in America and don’t care. What do you expect those in power to do when people aren’t acknowledging a pandemic? They’ll take more drastic actions to ensure the safety of everyone, especially in populated areas. One example is bars and restaurants. Almost every friend or family member that I know that got Covid has said they think they got it at the restaurant or bar. Nobody can prove it sure but that’s how it is. The difference is that some of us are willing to concede that it happened at the restaurant because there is no bias! While others just flat out deny it regardless of any notion simply because it’s an inconvenient truth. I think the vaccines will help but what doesn’t help is the perpetual downplaying of the seriousness of this pandemic. All this will do is prolong it. As far as how other countries measured Covid? Who cares. Why don’t we take care of our own problem first.
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Originally Posted by Regularguy View Post
While I don't like what you have often posted, and it seems you have as much bias as those whom you post against, I have to ask you some simple questions for thought:

1. Why is it there are so much variance in the statistics about deaths and cases between countries?
2. Has anyone ever addressed the possibility of different methods of determining what these two are between countries?
3. Could it be the leadership of the various countries and medical establishments in them have standards different than the USA?
4. Could it be within the USA the different states also have different standards of recording and verification of these statistics?

As too many layman, you and I included, start quoting the various secular articles and opinions it tends to get lost that none of the information is really correct nor validated in a consistent manner. Therefore most of our opinions are extremely flawed and represent more our personal biases than any real facts. Kind of like when airplane crashes are reported on, generally they are largely wrong and highlight the bias and entertainment needs of the reporter.


Now my personal rant:

My opinion is this, the leaders of the world have, for whatever reason, played a very dangerous game with their constituents. They have risked not only physical and economic health, they have quite possibly caused the greatest and most historic change in the world ever. I also believe it is quite clear that here in the USA many, they've all been named before, are using the crisis to further their own personal vision of the world. It is also clear in my view that politics (as we all like to call it) and not the health and social welfare of the Citizens of our Country is the major motivation of those same people.

Now, as I have written many times, how does this crisis end?

I know this, the virus will (and I have been writing it for almost a year now) mutate, people will become immune, and the vaccine will be a norm. However, these leaders will not give up their power through fear.

Ronald Reagan said this, "Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall!"

I say this:
President Biden, "Tear down the walls against the people of the USA you have built in our Nation's Capital!"

Good luck to us all.
So, you have your opinions and others have theirs. You seem enamored with using a lot of drama in your posts and rants. That really detracts from any consitency in your postings.
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Originally Posted by RhinoPherret View Post
So, you have your opinions and others have theirs. You seem enamored with using a lot of drama in your posts and rants. That really detracts from any consitency in your postings.

Are you or others really passionate about anything at all or does coming here and posting just fulfill some need to pointlessly debate things you have no control over? Did you not forget most of what is posted here and throughout the internet is purely entertainment and kills time instead of doing something really profitable during the day. Days of our Lives, type of thing.


Life is full of drama, just watch CNN especially Stetler, Cuomo and Lemon. They get paid to have dramatic worthless and uninformed opinions.

Don’t forget you too can post your own rants, beats kicking the dog.
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I think the vaccines will help but what doesn’t help is the perpetual downplaying of the seriousness of this pandemic. All this will do is prolong it.
This right here tells me that fundamentally you don’t understand how this works. Does “flatten the curve” ring any bells?

The whole point of your strategy (the one you advocate for) is to PROLONG the pandemic so that healthcare is not overwhelmed - remember? Have you ever met anyone that never had a cold? Never had the flu? There is NO strategy that says we quarantine and mask and lockdown until the virus disappears. To believe otherwise is naive and foolish. Realistically, getting rid of lockdowns and masks and other stuff would speed the time it takes for this to run its natural and inevitable course (albeit with more severe outcomes for some, possibly, absent a vaccine)
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I’ve had more than one African laugh at me taking Malerone saying, “malaria just a bad headache”. And then the Americans thinking there’s a malaria shot, saying they’re okay.
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Are you or others really passionate about anything at all or does coming here and posting just fulfill some need to pointlessly debate things you have no control over? Did you not forget most of what is posted here and throughout the internet is purely entertainment and kills time instead of doing something really profitable during the day. Days of our Lives, type of thing.


Life is full of drama, just watch CNN especially Stetler, Cuomo and Lemon. They get paid to have dramatic worthless and uninformed opinions.

Don’t forget you too can post your own rants, beats kicking the dog.
Being passionate vs. sensationalizing are two quite different issues.

Your posts include much hyperbole and lecturing which degrade whatever opinions you are trying to put forth. I sense you get more enjoyment out of reading your posts than the quality of their content (love to hear myself talk).
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