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Old 04-03-2021, 04:22 PM
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My argument is more like “let’s not borrow 20 trillion dollars from China (money we cannot hope to ever be able to payback - how will that work out?), destroy our children’s education and put them over a year behind by closing schools for no good reason, and destroy millions of small businesses to “flatten the curve” for a year (is it flat yet?) cause we are worried about a disease that is not much worse than the flu and overwhelming affects infirm, obese, 75 year old and up people living in nursing homes that will realistically die soon anyway. YeeHaw.
Yeah man. Nothing at all to worry about.
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Old 04-03-2021, 04:26 PM
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How many of those deaths were exclusively from COVID—perfectly healthy people who suddenly died of it? How many were stable people with comorbidity that died of COVID who would have had a life expectancy greater than one year? By age group? Until you break out the detail, of course, it’s terrible.
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How many of those deaths were exclusively from COVID—perfectly healthy people who suddenly died of it? How many were stable people with comorbidity that died of COVID who would have had a life expectancy greater than one year? By age group? Until you break out the detail, of course, it’s terrible.
All of them. Even perfectly healthy people died of the vaccine such as myself. We have no choice but to stay inside for the next 150 years. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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Old 04-03-2021, 04:38 PM
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Ok. Then why are total deaths insanely higher than previous years if it was all people that were going to die that year anyway?
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Ok. Then why are total deaths insanely higher than previous years if it was all people that were going to die that year anyway?
Question more appropriate would be (and wont be known until we look back) will be the graphs for 2022/23/24 and will those lines be below the pre covid lines. Did Covid take out a significant chunk of those that sadly would have met their demise from their underlying conditions/ advanced age in the next few years. Just food for thought.
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Old 04-03-2021, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires View Post
Ok. Then why are total deaths insanely higher than previous years if it was all people that were going to die that year anyway?
Somewhere we have to accept life has risks. H1N1, Zika, SARS, people meowing on guard might just be unavoidable no matter what. In fact maybe we should always err on the side of safety. No more risk anywhere. Stay inside at all times or we're all doomed!!
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Originally Posted by Desdi View Post
Question more appropriate would be (and wont be known until we look back) will be the graphs for 2022/23/24 and will those lines be below the pre covid lines. Did Covid take out a significant chunk of those that sadly would have met their demise from their underlying conditions/ advanced age in the next few years. Just food for thought.
So do you predict half a million fewer than average deaths next year?
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Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires View Post
So do you predict half a million fewer than average deaths next year?
Nope that’s not what I said, just posing an interesting question. I wonder if the average amounts of deaths from all causes might be less than average for the next handful of years because of the massive death in 2020 of elderly and or people with multiple preexisting conditions. To your point yes covid also took out many that were to live much longer lives so of course I wouldn’t pick up what u just threw down with that 500,000 number above! Just food for thought.

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Ok. Then why are total deaths insanely higher than previous years if it was all people that were going to die that year anyway?
I’ve said this many times now and no one has the guts to respond. I work for a very large life insurance company. In 2020 they did pay out a lot of COVID death claims, but when you compare past years they are paying out a normal amount of death claims. Literally the only difference is what column the cause of death goes into.
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I’ve said this many times now and no one has the guts to respond. I work for a very large life insurance company. In 2020 they did pay out a lot of COVID death claims, but when you compare past years they are paying out a normal amount of death claims. Literally the only difference is what column the cause of death goes into.
So.....all of those other people just didn’t die and there wasn’t greater than average mortality last year?

I trust cdc total deaths more than “I work in life insurance”
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