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Old 01-25-2021, 10:25 AM
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me and xtreme87 are going to have a party like its 1999 since most of you are clueless to what is going on. you cann come the party though!the party is called the great reset!
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Fraudulent covid documents at airports driving need for digital verification....


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Old 03-10-2021, 09:20 AM
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Vaccine passport discussion...

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Old 03-10-2021, 10:23 AM
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There are a variety of logistics difficulties with this.
Setting aside that we don’t know with certainty the duration of immunity with ANY (let alone EACH) of the three vaccines now approved for emergency use in the US, these were all administered on an expedited basis, in tents, football stadiums, churches, etc. Name and age and sometimes local residency was verified, but not much else. If any central repository of that information exists, I’m unaware if it, or what the HIPPA implications of releasing it would be.

It is hardly like the military, where info was reliably entered into a vaccination certificate and transcribed into official records. Heck, I’m in a state that hasn’t really implemented REAL ID on the Driver’s Licenses yet and we BORDER Canada.

Not saying it couldn’t be done, shouldn’t be done, or won’t be done, but I’m still seeing UK shellfish having a hard time being shipped into France right now post-Brexit. Getting worldwide bureaucrats to buy off on a common international system will be...interesting.

And if I were to guess, not quick.
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Old 03-10-2021, 10:44 AM
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There are a variety of logistics difficulties with this.
Setting aside that we don’t know with certainty the duration of immunity with ANY (let alone EACH) of the three vaccines now approved for emergency use in the US, these were all administered on an expedited basis, in tents, football stadiums, churches, etc. Name and age and sometimes local residency was verified, but not much else. If any central repository of that information exists, I’m unaware if it, or what the HIPPA implications of releasing it would be.

It is hardly like the military, where info was reliably entered into a vaccination certificate and transcribed into official records. Heck, I’m in a state that hasn’t really implemented REAL ID on the Driver’s Licenses yet and we BORDER Canada.

Not saying it couldn’t be done, shouldn’t be done, or won’t be done, but I’m still seeing UK shellfish having a hard time being shipped into France right now post-Brexit. Getting worldwide bureaucrats to buy off on a common international system will be...interesting.

And if I were to guess, not quick.
Apps already exist.

I don't think logistics are the issue. Someone will build it and they will come... at the expense of those who insist on making a last stand on a point of order. Soon enough the lagards will get with the program. Plus you can have multiple apps, not like they're hard to install.

Validation of docs is an issue since there will be fraud, but they'll find a sweet spot... it doesn't have to be 100% airtight.

The real issue apparently is the "ethics" associated with potentially marginalizing those who haven't been (or chose not to be) vaccinated. I think that could be fairly resolved by waiting until everybody (in the departure and arrival countries) has had a fair crack at a vaccine, or allowing covid tests as an alternative like we do now. The vaccine has obvious attractions over testing... cheap(free), only have to do it once/twice, and of course no false positives with a vaccine passport.
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And if I were to guess, not quick.
And by the time they figure it out, wholly unnecessary.
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And by the time they figure it out, wholly unnecessary.
I suspect you are right. Still, it would provide a framework for those countries wishing to exclude people carrying other infectious diseases, HIV, Hep C, Hep B, or even genetic conditions that might add to the host country’s healthcare budget...
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I received my first Moderna jab two weeks ago tomorrow. I presented by WHI Yellow Card (vaccination record for the uninitiated): nurse said, “we’re no5 doing those, you’ll receive a paper record”. I was sorta surprised, but she said something the shot going in my EHR. Well, we’ll see how that works.
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I suspect you are right. Still, it would provide a framework for those countries wishing to exclude people carrying other infectious diseases, HIV, Hep C, Hep B, or even genetic conditions that might add to the host country’s healthcare budget...
A lot of countries (including the US) already require medical exams and exclude certain infectious diseases, for immigrants if not tourists.

Any nation which actually wanted to exclude immigrants based on genetics could easily do that screening as part of the pre-immigration medical screen. Don't need an app for that.

An app(s) would enable the return of international travel, for business and tourism. It's totally irrelevant for immigration purposes... each country is going to do their own screening, taking their own sweet time. There's no need to enable rapid immigration, most people do immigration never and almost nobody does it more than once in their life.

And so what? If certain nations want to screen for genetic conditions that's their prerogative.
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