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Old 04-19-2021, 08:04 AM   #21  
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So...all I had to do was type in the name of the author of this “study”.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...cks-evidence-/

And since you are going to disagree with politifact for being leftist.

https://www.amgenbiotechexperience.c...rily-believing

This article is literally being used as a method to teach people about how to identify misinformation.

Exactly. The article is completely laughable and it’s been debunked but is used seriously here. Masks causes insomnia? Aging? I mean come on.
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Conclusion: Wearing an N95 mask for 4 hours during HD significantly reduced PaO2 and increased respiratory adverse effects in ESRD patients.
Who has the mask on for 4 hours straight?
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Who has the mask on for 4 hours straight?
Presumably pilots if what some on here demand is followed 🤷🏼‍♂️
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Presumably pilots 🤷🏼‍♂️
You’re not going to be spending 4 hours at Walmart. At least I hope not!
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You’re not going to be spending 4 hours at Walmart. At least I hope not!
Hey they have a plethora of cheap canned goods, and I’m very selective!
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https://youtu.be/Qp3gy_CLXho

Even a broken clock is right twice a day...
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Even a broken clock is right twice a day...
Perhaps more like a canary in a coal mine
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Who has the mask on for 4 hours straight?
Pretty much everyone that has to be around customers and wear a mask for work.
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Pretty much everyone that has to be around customers and wear a mask for work.
And are they complaining? Or is it a couple of pilots on here that probably don’t wear the mask for more than a few minutes at a time.
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Yep, so a different website with a different political agenda says this is all fake science - OK, but do we ever ask why? Did you check any of the citations in the article to see if they did in fact support the authors claims of masking having health impacts? Like this piece, an actual RCT study done before COVID:

The physiological impact of wearing an N95 mask during hemodialysis as a precaution against SARS in patients with end-stage renal disease

Methods: ESRD patients who received regular HD at National Taiwan University Hospital between April to June 2003 were enrolled. Each patient wore a new N95 mask (3M Model 8210) during HD (4 hours). Vital signs, clinical symptoms and arterial blood gas measured before and at the end of HD were compared.

Results: Thirty nine patients (23 men; mean age, 57.2 years) were recruited for participation in the study. Seventy percent of the patients showed a reduction in partial pressure of oxygen (PaO2), and 19% developed various degrees of hypoxemia. Wearing an N95 mask significantly reduced the PaO2 level (101.7 +/- 12.6 to 92.7 +/- 15.8 mm Hg, p = 0.006), increased the respiratory rate (16.8 +/- 2.8 to 18.8 +/- 2.7/min, p < 0.001), and increased the occurrence of chest discomfort (3 to 11 patients, p = 0.014) and respiratory distress (1 to 17 patients, p < 0.001). Baseline PaO2 level was the only significant predictor of the magnitude of PaO2 reduction (p < 0.001).

Conclusion: Wearing an N95 mask for 4 hours during HD significantly reduced PaO2 and increased respiratory adverse effects in ESRD patients.

Sure, nothing I would want to call completely conclusive, but it is valid and does support the authors contention. Why are you (and politifact) so quick to throw that out? Do you only believe the science that supports your preconceived notions then?
My dude. Did you know that dialysis itself is known to cause hypoxemia? Apparently this has been known for over 30 years and this journal of Chinese medicine study doesn’t seem to have had a control group of non masked patients because it was conducted during the SARS epidemic.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/602214

And here is a non covid report showing that 12 hours (3 times longer) with an n95 did not result in any significant physiological burden.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7132714/#__ffn_sectitle

If masks caused the negative effects y’all are suggesting then every doctor, nurse, contractor that wears a respirator, farmer mixing chemicals, skier wearing a balaclava, all of these people over the past decades, would have been filling hospitals and overwhelming the healthcare system with the conditions this hypothesis claims.
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