Stanford study: Masks are very bad
#31
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If masks caused the negative effects y’all are suggesting then every doctor, nurse, contractor that wears a respirator, farmer mixing chemicals, skier wearing a balaclava, all of these people over the past decades, would have been filling hospitals and overwhelming the healthcare system with the conditions this hypothesis claims.
#32
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Will do!
Politifact is part of the Poynter Institute
Start with Wikipedia:
"PolitiFact.com is an American nonprofit project operated by the Poynter Institute in St. Petersburg, Florida, with offices there and in Washington, D.C. It began in 2007 as a project of the Tampa Bay Times (then the St. Petersburg Times), with reporters and editors from the newspaper and its affiliated news media partners reporting on the accuracy of statements made by elected officials, candidates, their staffs, lobbyists, interest groups and others involved in U.S. politics"
"in 2019, Poynter used various "fake news" databases (including those curated by the Annenberg Public Policy Center, Merrimack College, PolitiFact, and Snopes) to compile a list of over 515 news websites that it labeled "unreliable." Poynter called on advertisers to "blacklist" the sites on the list. The list included conservative news websites such as the Washington Examiner, The Washington Free Beacon, and The Daily Signal. After backlash, Poynter retracted the list, citing "weaknesses in the methodology."[21] Poynter issued a statement, saying: "We regret that we failed to ensure that the data was rigorous before publication, and apologize for the confusion and agitation caused by its publication."
Essentially, Politicact a news based organization. What it is not is the end all of research and fact checking. As I was taught so many years ago, they follow the headline and minimal article rule of reporting. Some of their results are good and some maybe not so good. Like all news organizations they are biased
An old article from Huff Post: Feb 12, 2012
"But I don’t think it’s so simple. I suspect the real problem is one of supply and demand. PolitiFact’s entertaining approach, complete with “Pants on Fire” liars, and its 2009 Pulitzer Prize, has led to a veritable fact-checking industry that needs increasing quantities of fuel to keep the fires burning. And there just isn’t enough. The fact-checkers are shifting from judging facts to indulging in opinion, but they’re not necessarily doing it because they want to. They’re doing it because politicians don’t flat-out lie as frequently as we might suppose."
There are more current articles, but they all tend to fall down the pit of opinion and political bias, something the Huff Post warned about years ago.
The point?
While entertaining to read, because of opinion and bias Politfact cannot be trusted as a source of facts.
So what is a person to do?
Live life.
Politifact is part of the Poynter Institute
Start with Wikipedia:
"PolitiFact.com is an American nonprofit project operated by the Poynter Institute in St. Petersburg, Florida, with offices there and in Washington, D.C. It began in 2007 as a project of the Tampa Bay Times (then the St. Petersburg Times), with reporters and editors from the newspaper and its affiliated news media partners reporting on the accuracy of statements made by elected officials, candidates, their staffs, lobbyists, interest groups and others involved in U.S. politics"
"in 2019, Poynter used various "fake news" databases (including those curated by the Annenberg Public Policy Center, Merrimack College, PolitiFact, and Snopes) to compile a list of over 515 news websites that it labeled "unreliable." Poynter called on advertisers to "blacklist" the sites on the list. The list included conservative news websites such as the Washington Examiner, The Washington Free Beacon, and The Daily Signal. After backlash, Poynter retracted the list, citing "weaknesses in the methodology."[21] Poynter issued a statement, saying: "We regret that we failed to ensure that the data was rigorous before publication, and apologize for the confusion and agitation caused by its publication."
Essentially, Politicact a news based organization. What it is not is the end all of research and fact checking. As I was taught so many years ago, they follow the headline and minimal article rule of reporting. Some of their results are good and some maybe not so good. Like all news organizations they are biased
An old article from Huff Post: Feb 12, 2012
"But I don’t think it’s so simple. I suspect the real problem is one of supply and demand. PolitiFact’s entertaining approach, complete with “Pants on Fire” liars, and its 2009 Pulitzer Prize, has led to a veritable fact-checking industry that needs increasing quantities of fuel to keep the fires burning. And there just isn’t enough. The fact-checkers are shifting from judging facts to indulging in opinion, but they’re not necessarily doing it because they want to. They’re doing it because politicians don’t flat-out lie as frequently as we might suppose."
There are more current articles, but they all tend to fall down the pit of opinion and political bias, something the Huff Post warned about years ago.
The point?
While entertaining to read, because of opinion and bias Politfact cannot be trusted as a source of facts.
So what is a person to do?
Live life.
#33
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My dude. Did you know that dialysis itself is known to cause hypoxemia? Apparently this has been known for over 30 years and this journal of Chinese medicine study doesn’t seem to have had a control group of non masked patients because it was conducted during the SARS epidemic.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...bstract/602214
And here is a non covid report showing that 12 hours (3 times longer) with an n95 did not result in any significant physiological burden.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...__ffn_sectitle
If masks caused the negative effects y’all are suggesting then every doctor, nurse, contractor that wears a respirator, farmer mixing chemicals, skier wearing a balaclava, all of these people over the past decades, would have been filling hospitals and overwhelming the healthcare system with the conditions this hypothesis claims.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...bstract/602214
And here is a non covid report showing that 12 hours (3 times longer) with an n95 did not result in any significant physiological burden.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...__ffn_sectitle
If masks caused the negative effects y’all are suggesting then every doctor, nurse, contractor that wears a respirator, farmer mixing chemicals, skier wearing a balaclava, all of these people over the past decades, would have been filling hospitals and overwhelming the healthcare system with the conditions this hypothesis claims.
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I believe that every opposing opinion on this forum is written by a singular, super hacker troll and that none of it is real.
I believe that COVID is a hoax created by the New World Order sponsored by BIG COTTON to sell masks to everyone.
I believe that wearing a mask for more than 15 minutes a day boosts estrogen by 1000% and will turn men gay.
I believe that skywatch is actually a 63 year old woman who got bored with her local book club and decided to mix it up online.
And no one can prove it differently.
Last edited by 400000Dead; 04-19-2021 at 10:19 AM.
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You idiots have destroyed truth. Expertise doesn't matter. Facts don't matter. Only preconceived opinions matter and here's my "study" written on a bar napkin to prove it.
I believe that every opposing opinion on this forum is written by a singular, super hacker troll and that none of it is real.
I believe that COVID is a hoax created by the New World Order sponsored by BIG COTTON to sell masks to everyone.
I believe that wearing a mask for more than 15 minutes a day boosts estrogen by 1000% and will turn men gay.
I believe that skywatch is actually a 63 year old women who got bored with her local book club and decided to mix it up online.
And no one can prove it differently.
I believe that every opposing opinion on this forum is written by a singular, super hacker troll and that none of it is real.
I believe that COVID is a hoax created by the New World Order sponsored by BIG COTTON to sell masks to everyone.
I believe that wearing a mask for more than 15 minutes a day boosts estrogen by 1000% and will turn men gay.
I believe that skywatch is actually a 63 year old women who got bored with her local book club and decided to mix it up online.
And no one can prove it differently.
Last edited by Desdi; 04-19-2021 at 10:33 AM.
#36
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You idiots have destroyed truth. Expertise doesn't matter. Facts don't matter. Only preconceived opinions matter and here's my "study" written on a bar napkin to prove it.
I believe that every opposing opinion on this forum is written by a singular, super hacker troll and that none of it is real.
I believe that COVID is a hoax created by the New World Order sponsored by BIG COTTON to sell masks to everyone.
I believe that wearing a mask for more than 15 minutes a day boosts estrogen by 1000% and will turn men gay.
I believe that skywatch is actually a 63 year old women who got bored with her local book club and decided to mix it up online.
And no one can prove it differently.
I believe that every opposing opinion on this forum is written by a singular, super hacker troll and that none of it is real.
I believe that COVID is a hoax created by the New World Order sponsored by BIG COTTON to sell masks to everyone.
I believe that wearing a mask for more than 15 minutes a day boosts estrogen by 1000% and will turn men gay.
I believe that skywatch is actually a 63 year old women who got bored with her local book club and decided to mix it up online.
And no one can prove it differently.
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You idiots have destroyed truth. Expertise doesn't matter. Facts don't matter. Only preconceived opinions matter and here's my "study" written on a bar napkin to prove it.
I believe that every opposing opinion on this forum is written by a singular, super hacker troll and that none of it is real.
I believe that COVID is a hoax created by the New World Order sponsored by BIG COTTON to sell masks to everyone.
I believe that wearing a mask for more than 15 minutes a day boosts estrogen by 1000% and will turn men gay.
I believe that skywatch is actually a 63 year old woman who got bored with her local book club and decided to mix it up online.
And no one can prove it differently.
I believe that every opposing opinion on this forum is written by a singular, super hacker troll and that none of it is real.
I believe that COVID is a hoax created by the New World Order sponsored by BIG COTTON to sell masks to everyone.
I believe that wearing a mask for more than 15 minutes a day boosts estrogen by 1000% and will turn men gay.
I believe that skywatch is actually a 63 year old woman who got bored with her local book club and decided to mix it up online.
And no one can prove it differently.
I also might ask you to reflect on what is known as the 80/20 generalization rule. Also consider the argument of “facts over opinions” and just maybe you will begin to understand, as many are discovering to their dismay, most things are NOT fact driven.
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Time to take a break 400, I mean it sincerely. You do realize when the history is written 1/2 of what you steadfastly believe will be proven wrong, just like the people with opposing opinions will also be proven wrong on half the crap they are spouting now. You are not immune to confirmation bias. Take a step back and try not to get wound up! Opinions are like *******s everyone has one and none of us are medical professionals. Your opinion is given the commensurate level of respect in as far as your ability to respect others’ opinions. Consequently try not to add an insult on every post and people might take you and debate with you more seriously.
How telling.
#39
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How telling? Can you post anything without being condescending? Always on hair trigger to attack 🤦🏼♂️ This is why folks on here try to trigger you and don’t take you seriously! It’s not your opinion it’s your delivery.... try being more like Knobcrk!
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer;[url=tel:3223627
3223627[/url]]Driving down the Merritt in CT last week, come to blockade of slow traffic. Eventually, we all get by this left lane bandit doing 54 mph, driving a Tesla, double-masked, all alone. Told me all I needed to know about COVID-fearing, climate activists preaching safetyism.
Btw, there’s a reason he’s alone. They can only stand each other at a rally or some kind of “peaceful protest”.
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